Wednesday, December 26, 2007

DR BERHANU NEGA COMES BACK WITH A VENGEANCE. SO WHAT ELSE IS NEW?

Washera_2000

December 2007

"We face a government with absolute disregard for human life and human rights, emboldened to extremes with every passing day and posing a grave risk to our struggle. Let us put aside our childish squabbles within our party, align ourselves with all democratic forces and move forward to persuade our people with the superior power of our democratic principles." Dr. Berhanu Nega

Dr. Berhanu Nega's interview on Ethiopian Current Affairs Discussion Forum (Pal talk) on Dec 3, 2007.

When I have a few hours to spare, I like to listen to what prominent politicians of our country have to say. At the top of my list are PM Meles Zenawi, Dr. Berhanu Nega, W/t Bertukan Mideksa and Ato Hailu Shawel, not necessarily in that order. I believe that these individuals are among the few influential voices that have a large audience in the present day Ethiopian Diaspora politics. As a result, I feel very strongly that providing an English translation of some of their interviews or public addresses, will help to broaden the understanding of audiences and help in our animated discussions, as well as to providing a permanent hard copy to refer to.

I have had issues with Dr. Berhanu's statements, ever since his first speech in Washington, D.C. Despite his apparent dedication to democratic principles and individual liberty, I find many contradictions in his statements and utter lack of respect for the Ethiopian government. At a minimum, he will loose the good will of some of these government officials that he plans to work with. At worse, he may well be in violation of his terms of release from Kality prison. It does not take a rocket scientist to infer from his recent activities that EPRDF thinks of him as damaged goods. So why make it worse? As you read along, please make note of the highlighted comments and enjoy the humor at my expense lol

Q (Endellibu): Our guest today is Dr. Berhanu Nega, "Laelay Mikir Bet abal" and mayor-elect of Addis Ababa. Thank you for accepting our invitation to be with us today.

Dr. Berhanu: Thank you very much. I apologize for not making your past repeated invitations. At the outset, I would like to make it clear to you that my comments today are as Berhanu and not as a leader of any organization or member of Kinijit.

Q (Endellibu): Thank you very much. That is how we made the introduction too. What was the feeling of the struggle like in Ethiopia after you came out of prison? What about the movement abroad? What were your observations like during your tour abroad?

Dr. Berhanu: As you may know, after EPRDF reneged on the terms it agreed on with the Elders Commission about our release, after going about a propaganda campaign of malicious character assassination for over ten days, after performing acts akin to cheap shots of a hooligan and convinced that our political career was effectively terminated, the reception we received from the people both at home and abroad was a clear indication of their firm belief in the principles of democracy. Far from being discouraged and feeling defeated, we witnessed their resolve to uphold the Kinijit ideology and their desire to advance these principles unabated. We were also made to believe that we are well equipped to lead a steady, deliberate and legitimate movement of higher moral value. As is well known, although the new controversy inside Kinijt has thrown cold water on the people's desire for freedom and democracy, I am convinced that the Ethiopian people are going to continue the struggle until they see the fulfillment of their aspirations.

(Washera:I should mention that, even as we speak, Dr. Berhanu Nega, W/t Bertukan Mideksa, Dr. Hailu Araya, Ato Gizachew Shiferaw and Ato Biruk Debebe have been suspended by Chairman Hailu Shawel!)

Q(Endellibu): What is the present state of affairs inside Kinijit. This thing inside Kinijit is new. We used to think that all Kinijit leaders were democrats. But what we are witnessing these days is contrary to that belief. Is it a moral dilemma? Can you tell us the situation inside Kinijit now?

Dr. Berhanu: This issue is more than a moral dilemma to me. It is an indication of a moral decadence along the same lines of those who are bent on the desire to destroy the movement at any cost. This deep seated anti-democratic behavior is very embarrassing and humiliating to us all. It is also a shame and a dishonor to the struggle. I will not be surprised if the people are disturbed and puzzled by it and even questioned their decision to vote for Kinijit in the first place. I myself was disgusted by this act. I have no better words to describe such a political struggle based on a run of the mill lie and aspersions, other than to say it is very embarrassing indeed!. In the end, I hope that the people will transcend such sleazy gossip and have the strength and fortitude to forge ahead with the democratic movement.

There are many problems with our struggle. This should not come as a surprise us. There are those who would like to fan and spread lies about our movement. Many political groups benefit from this situation. But as you well know, the main beneficiary of this, and the practitioner of politics by malicious tactics is EPRDF itself. While we are embarrassing ourselves by throwing mud at each other, EPRDF is bombing our neighborhoods, it kills, it maims, and it rapes our people. Wrapped in this mess, we do not even have time to demonstrate against such atrocities of EPRDF. It is indeed a very very sad and shameful act.

Q (Taye – Machew-Calgary): The struggle for democracy and rule of law has turned into name calling and disrespect, all the way from the top leadership to the average member. Several issues have been raised about your remaining behind to do fellowship. Can you tell us more about it?

Dr. Berhanu: This is no secret. Following my speech at The New School in New York and my award for fellowship, I gave an interview to German Radio. I explained at the time that the fellowship that would last for a semester was for time to write, to think and to contemplate. I mentioned at the time that I will start my fellowship as soon as we finished the North American Tour of duty. I am very happy about this opportunity and feel it is ever more important to do it. As you know, Kinijit is in the middle of in-fighting and petty disputes. We have to figure a way out of this mess so as to move forward with our democratic struggle.

What should our strategic direction be? Does this direction need to be changed? We have never had a chance to sit down, think, contemplate and map out any strategy about all these issues. So, I believe that the opportunity to have time to figure out our future direction for our democratic struggle is ever more important. Some have asked me to go home instead and help solve the in-fighting inside Kinijit. Let alone me, I would strongly advise others to get the hell out of this mayhem and move on to the important task of our democratic struggle. Those who desire to squander their time in trashy tittle-tattle should be left alone to drawn in it. Those elements that stand for democracy should look away from this crap and focus on the principal enemy, EPRDF, to bring it to the negotiating table for a democratic resolution of the crisis we are in. If this does not happen, we have to think about our alternatives. Our task at hand should be to think about these options and to have the people and the organization in place to do the task. We should not waste our time and resources talking about daily aspersions from insolent people or cheap talk about what Abayneh said or what Kebede said. For me, this is not a worthwhile struggle and we should walk away from it and focus on our main objective.

Q (Endellibu): Shouldn't all this mess be handled by Kinijit? Doesn't Kinijit have the organizational structure to handle this problem? How else can we move forward?

Dr. Berhanu: I don't know how many of you are aware of this. But for this issue to be handled according to the party by-laws, you have to get a majority of the Kinijit leadership to meet and decide what to do. What we are hearing is that, one group has already formed its own body and is moving in a different direction. How can you assemble these groups together and resolve this controversy? Unless we find a quick way to sort out and wrap up this problem, we could sit here for weeks and months waiting for a Kinijit quorum to be reached. There are groups bent on preventing any kind of democratic decisions to be passed by Kinijit. We are witnessing the actions of a group willing and capable of causing significant damage to the movement. This is the time to ponder over what direction the democratic movement should take. We should not be tools for their antics and obstacles meant to impede our progress.

Q (Taye-Machew): As noted in your famous presentation in Washington, D.C., at the beginning of the tour, you strongly believe that we can overthrow EPRDF through peaceful struggle. Others disagree with you and call this idea of trying to bring EPRDF to the negotiating table as a weak and wimpy position. Can you elaborate on this?

Dr. Berhanu: Let me answer it in two ways. First, that is why we need time to think about it all. That is exactly what I want to do and that is what I am gonna do. Second, I don't know which part is called wimpy. If they are referring to peaceful struggle as a wimpy struggle not strong enough to affect governments, all you have to do is look at the astonishing accomplishments we had in 2005, much more than even armed struggle can do, and how it stunned EPRDF. Now, this does not mean that it is a religion, that we have made a vow to abide by just this one tactic. In fact, what I am suggesting is that we should re-think this whole modus operandi. We have to sit down and think about a new strategy. Will a government, that has stolen votes, and smashed the opposition by force, be willing to relinquish its sovereignty by the ballot box? What kind of pressure will force it to go for true negotiations? If it doesn't, do we have a means of compelling it to do so? These are issues we have to raise, debate and arrive at strategically more appropriate options after some serious thinking. We have to stop throwing mud at each other and instead, think like an organization or a coalition of similar minded movements who are deliberate in their actions. That is how we are preparing ourselves. So, I don't know what aspect of this strategy they considered wimpy.

Q (Taye-Machew): We have heard that you have been invited to address a meeting in Lisbon, Portugal on issues of Human Rights in developing countries. In what capacity are you going there? We have also heard that PM Meles Zenawi will be at the meeting too. What do you expect from this meeting?

Dr. Berhanu: There are two meetings in Lisbon. One called the EU-Africa Summit, is a meeting between African leaders and European leaders. Side by side with this, because of the presence of these leaders and better press coverage, Amnesty International holds a meeting on issues of Human rights, universal rights and good governance. This is a one day meeting and I was invited to address the situation in Ethiopia. I will be talking about the worsening Human right situation in Ethiopia, how shameful the violations are and how dangerous the entire region will be if the European nations and others turn a blind eye to Meles government. I will point out that such inaction in the face of flagrant human right violations could turn the region into a hot bed for war and permanent instability. I hope to impress on these leaders the gravity of the situation and call upon them to put more pressure on PM Meles and reconsider their policy toward the Ethiopian government. (Washera: is this the EU equivalent of HR2003?).

Q (Gureza): Considering the sad state of affairs inside Kinijit now, what would the situation be like if Woyane had not stolen the elections in 2005 and Kinijit was in power? Will the situation with Kinijit scare away other parties or organizations who would like to form coalitions to replace the Woyane regime with a democratic one? Will the Ethiopian people look at such coalitions and debates with suspicion?

Dr. Berhanu: The first question is like what foreigners call "trick question". What would you do if you were in power, is a difficult question to answer. If all these same shady characters were in power, would they do things differently, because of the position of power that they will be in? There are responsibilities and institutional obligations that come with power. How much these institutional obligations will deter the unethical conduct of these characters is difficult to say. I do understand your skepticism, though. Any one who is witnessing the present state of affairs will no doubt be apprehensive and fearful, and second guess the rationale for their previous decisions.

Mircha 97 (2005 elections) was not only about overthrowing Meles. It was a democratic question and focused mainly on building the institutions of democracy. These democratic principles include the belief that no one is above the law, that all are ruled by the law of the land and that all respect this law. These principles emanate from democratic institutions and from democratic individuals. I fail to understand how anyone who disavows these democratic principles will fight to bring about democratic institutions. Have you heard any substantive issues being discussed by these people? The only issue is, about respecting decisions made by democratic institutions. It is really, really, really difficult to believe that people who do not respect these democratic principles, will go out and build democratic institutions. Democracy is not about our individual beliefs. Democracy is about accommodating the various beliefs of individuals (Washera: Except the EPRDFites whose ideas cannot be respected) and creating a fair and just society. Under these democratic principles, any one should be allowed to bring their beliefs to the people, accept and be ruled by the one that the people choose. Those whose ideas were unsuccessful, should accept their defeat, prepare for the next election and in the mean time, be governed by the victorious idea. But, any one who does not abide by these principles cannot be expected to bring about democratic change, just because he wants to overthrow Meles or hates him or calls him Woyane. (Washera: That includes you, I presume?) I do not believe that there is any one in this day and age, who will fall for such foolish jokes. I do agree with you that this kind of behavior will make it very difficult to make coalitions among parties. By the same token, I think we have gained a great deal from this experience. We are better prepared to build democratic institutions. Democracy will not bring individual beliefs any closer. But it will allow Christians, Moslems, Animists all, the right to practice the religion of their choosing, while creating a system where all can agree to live together in one country. From here on, any organization that exists or is created has to have clear and transparent principles and agree and abide by these democratic principles. Those who agree to form coalitions just to overthrow EPRDF, will not have learned their lessons.

Q (Kinfu-on-line): There is a political stalemate inside Kinijit that has prevented it from doing its job. This gridlock inside Kinijit has incapacitated the ability of its leaders from focusing on their opposition. How is it possible to resolve this problem? You have used strong language today, but what is the solution? Does this problem predate your imprisonment or is it a new development? Do you regret the formation of Kinijit by the coalition of the four parties?

Dr. Berhanu: Let me start from the last question. I do not regret the formation of CUD. That decision, with all its weaknesses and problems, has moved the democratic struggle in Ethiopia several steps forward.

The mess inside Kinijit has consumed our day today conversations. Our daily talk has become who said what to whom. It has completely paralyzed our organization and our democratic struggle. That is why I believe we need to think of a radical solution for this problem. Which is, those with democratic principles should be left to move on with their struggle. If there is any resolution of their differences at all, they should be told to stop the insult, lies and name calling. This does no good to them or to the politics. They are mature and elderly people. Let each side map out and teach its plans to overthrow EPRDF and build their respective institutions. Those on this side of the aisle, who believe in and stand for democratic principles and rule of law, alongside with other forces with similar values, should move forward with the struggle. This really purely idiotic nonsense of name calling and verbal punches has to stop. Trying to bring these opposing forces together like the old CUD is a useless and unnecessary endeavor. I don't think it will move the democratic struggle one foot forward. Some time in the future, which I doubt, once every one has gone his way and things have simmered down, may be we can try to regroup and talk. But now, instead of going out and demonstrating about our opposition to the raping of our Ogaden people and their oppression by EPRDF, we have been completely shut out and excluded. This state of affairs cannot be allowed to continue. Those of us who stand for democratic principles have to start thinking further. We have to move forward and not be mired down by this worthless struggle. Enough already! We just cannot go on like this anymore.

Q (Kinfu): In your Chicago NPR radio interview, you alluded to how EPRDF has divided you into three groups and how he is playing one against the other. You seem to have placed all the blame on EPRDF. The question is where did the problem arise in the first place?

Dr. Berhanu: I want to say something. Mostly, the discussions, dialogues and debates that go on inside an organization are very captivating and pleasing. It is an ideological difference. Do you see these kinds of differences of opinion these days? Not one. For the last four months, we have been bickering over issues that have no substance. Why was I not received at the airport, is the main complaint. It is astonishing to hear this as an issue from a leader who belongs to an organization that wants to build democracy in Ethiopia. We consider it an honorable act to discuss our differences in the open and go our separate ways when we disagree. The truth will come out eventually. There is a communication gap now. I don't get it when they say we are divided. For me, Kinijit is one. What our people want and what we promised is to introduce a democratic system that bases its belief on individual right and respects group rights. There is no other way, but to advance these principles.

Q (Harari): What is Kinijit's stand on the issue of Ethnicity? The fear spread by EPRDF is that, if Kinijit takes power they will take away the ethnic-based rights of the nations and nationalities. What is your take on this?

Dr. Berhanu: This is definitely not a debatable issue in Ethiopian politics nowadays. Because, Kinijit believes that the way we build a democratic system is by basing it on the rights of the individual. These rights include freedom of expression, the right of assembly, and freedom of association to express one's opinion in an organized way, etc. Does Berhanu have these rights? It means Berhanu, as a male adult, as an economist and as a religious person, has the right to meet, organize and disseminate his beliefs to others. Others can propagate their ethnic-based politics any which way they want. I can say I disagree, but I cannot prevent them. To organize, you need people. You cannot tell them to organize with this ideology or with that something. So the rights of Nations and Nationalities or the question of ethnicity becomes irrelevant. People can organize in any form; disseminate their ideas to any one, and share resources and so on. You cannot stop that. They can organize under shared values, economic needs or professional relationships. One should choose based on what one thinks is right and better for him/her and not based on his/her ethnic origin. Eventually, I believe that, when these democratic principles get a foothold, ethnic-based politics and ethnic-based organizations will fade away. Therefore, under the present circumstances in Ethiopia, people are organized under ethnic-based beliefs. That is fine. We will come in with a better ideology-based organization and compete. Let us all agree to present each our view point and abide by whichever one the Ethiopian people choose. If I choose to go Oromia Kilil and compete, I should be able to do so without being asked to speak Afan Oromo. If you do that, you infringe on the freedom of the Oromo people too. Ethiopia is a nation of one ethnicity. For all of us to live together in harmony, we have to respect and defend each and every one of these rights. Any one who respects group rights, but not individual rights is a liar. The democratic ideals of Kinijit provide for the real answer to this dilemma. Nationalities rights are not respected because you cheat them, like EPRDF does, by saying to them self determination up to secession. What we have now learned is that, there is one tool that EPRDF wants to use to stay in power. That tool is to divide us and have us fight with each other. The challenge that faces all democratic forces is to be aware of this conspiracy and unite to figure a way for our democratic principles to triumph. I am done!

Q (Milach): The American State Department was one of the forces that provided direct help for EPRDF to ascend to power. At the time Mr. Cohen told Mr. Meles that they will give them a 'soft' landing. Ever since that time, we have at no time seen the State Department condemning or denouncing Mr. Meles' administration. During the killing of 193 people, the United States asked only for restraint on all sides. What is your comment on that? What kind of pressure do you think we should put on the State Department? How can we make the State Department turn away from Meles administration? Or is this some thing we should expect from the next Kinijit meeting?

Dr. Berhanu: The question about what to do change American foreign policy is important. I see two ways of doing that. The first thing to do is to organize ourselves and force this government and show to others that it cannot continue like this and that it will put the country into more instability and chaos if it continues like this. So primarily, it will be the result of our struggle that will influence the US government. The second point is to realize what the priorities for America are when it comes to poor countries in Africa. Primarily, it is not related to democracy or human rights. It is a power balance issue. Which power is it that we can work with to keep our interests? We have to show the US government that all these mess that it is drawn into in that part of the world can create a worse and unstable situation. They are looking for an alternative to the situation in the Horn. We believe stability can come to that region if all the different parties inside the country work in tandem and cooperation. We spend a lot of time fighting among each other rather than fighting with EPRDF. So, I don't think they yet believe that there is an alternative force to replace the present one. That is why we have to do our home work. First we have to unite and put pressure on this government. Second, by our unity and force we have to show the US government that we are a viable alternative. (Washera: Viable alternative, my foot! what are you smoking?) It is only when we do this that we can replace that force.

Q (Baliwe): Will your book have a sequel to include things that were left out? Things like party politics before kinijit. Some people show around a picture of you having a good laugh with Tamrat Layne and Meles Zenawi, to accuse you of complicity with Woyane and saying that you are not a genuine member of the Kinijit struggle. This can confuse some traditional individuals. What do you have to say about this?

Dr Berhanu: I love having pictures taken with any one, even you. These are recent charges. Do these people think they are talking politics? During my visit to Los Angeles, I was told about an elderly Ethiopian by the name of Moges, who was running around and posting these pictures all over the place. That is supposed to indicate that I am Woyane! I am sure it is as good as presenting any photograph, say that of Ato Hailu Shawel with Mengistu Hailemariam, and accusing him of being a Derg member. He has at least worked a little with Derg. (I only had champagne and a good laugh with them!) It is the same kind of political mudslinging that EPRDF does, rather than looking at Ato Hailu's present political arguments. This is really disgusting.

The picture was taken in 1991, when I went back to Ethiopia with my father and was invited as an observer at the conference of the Transitional government. In fact, I was refused admission and held at the airport for over two hours before they told me I had to observe this conference and took me there. (Washera: Those two hours felt like I was in Kality prison and I did not even have my I-pod at the time. I was forced to go to the conference rather than going to my family with my dad). We were sequestered and were not allowed to live except to go to the conference every day for six or seven days (Washera: Not enough time to write a mini-book). On the last day, there was a big party and I think the picture was taken by this guy called Mohammed who came from the US. At that time, they were inviting people to make short speeches and, I am not bragging about this, but I was asked by Ambassador Berhanu G. Krisotos to give the closing speech. (Washera: I think it is called bragging) I said to him "If you want me to make a short speech I will. But, let me tell you what I am going to say. I do not believe in the position you took on Eritrea. If this is a live broadcast, I will make it public and innumerate my reasons. In fact, I will make it my central argument and say you cannot say the Ethiopian people have no business with the cessation of Eritrea. I will argue that it concerns them and that we have to find ways of reuniting her with Ethiopia. If you let me express this opinion, I will make a speech." He said no way thanks you and moved on to talk to others. That is the context of the pictures.

But, move ahead and think of it this way. Let us say that I thought EPRDF was good at that time. By the way, I wrote two or three times, commenting on their political and economic policies. But, let us say I supported them and after a while, I changed my mind and said they were useless. Does this change of mind make me a Woyane?. What are we saying here? This shows disrespect for people. To show these pictures and say that Berhanu is absolutely stupid like them and think the people will believe it, is the highest form of disdain and snub to the people. So don't fall for this kind of cheap talk. They say the same kinds of things about Andargachew and Berhanu Mewa. You do not hear them tell their history. One should be measured by his present position or opinion. (Washera: Let me see if I get this. So, it does not matter what we did or say last year, last week or even yesterday? What matters is what we say today?)

On the question of writing about AEUP, EUDP-MEDHIN and other parties, what am I going to write about some thing that I don't know? Why don't they write about it? Why should I be blamed for their laziness? If I want to, I could spend a lot of time to do an extensive study and research, go to different libraries to get material, interview people and write it, like what any scholar would do. But that is not my interest. My interest is to write about the things that I have already started.

After finishing my book in prison, I started to write about "Law and Politics in Ethiopia" in collaboration with another individual. Actually, what we wanted to do was unique. There is no government like EPRDF that uses the law as an instrument of aggression and oppression rather than use it for people who seek justice. We wanted to explore this further and looked at five cases to demonstrate our contention. These cases were the Seye case, the Mechana Tulema case, OLF case and the case of Dr. Asrat. We took these cases and decide to apply our hypothesis that the new approach of these leaders is to use the law as a cover for their human right violations and killings so as to continue to get aid from the Western world, unlike the outright transgression of previous third world dictators. In the past, coup d'etats happened by military might. Nowadays, coup d'etats happen by the order of election commissions and election boards. This was created by the new world order. So, my interest is to explore this and write about in my second book. I am glad to have this limited free time to do this. We had written about 150 pages while we were in prison. But they took away that material when we came out. My main objective is to reconstruct that and no desire to write about AEUP. (Washera: No wonder Kality was a great research institution for you, rather than a prison to contemplate over your role in the 2005 debacle. You did not bother to mention even once, how you were released. You never said a word about why you apologized to the government before your release. I bet you have already broken half a dozen or so of the vows you entered into as a condition of your release. Never mind the erosion of your credibility ever since you came out of Kality. Some day, the Ethiopian people will know the truth and I hope you will openly apologize for the deaths that happened on your watch).

The problem started to manifest itself toward the end. As you know, when Ato Hailu, on his own personal decision established a new organization called KIC (Kinijit International Council), the people who joined him were the same people who disagreed strongly about it while we were in prison. Among the people condemning the Chairmanship of KIC were people like Abayneh. It is amazing to me that these people now turn around and talk about KICs existence and its progress. You know, at a certain level, the reason we dissolved KIC and KIL when we came out of prison was to save Ato Hailu some embarrassment. Since every one knew that it was a wrong decision made by Ato Hailu, we felt it would lead to even more unnecessary situations and decided to dissolve them and organize them in a new format. It is really very embarrassing to see those people now talk about KIC. I can't understand how people change their minds like this. (Washera: Good doctor, remember your prescription? "One should be measured by his present position or opinion". They are just like you!)

Regarding the reception when I go back home, the question is where and by whom. There will be those who will give me a good reception and there will be others who will not. So, that is life. (Washera: I pray to God not another time in Kality. I am sick and tired of the thought of another book by you)

Q (Baliwe): I think the danger Kinijit faces now is whether to put the Kinijit manifesto into practice or not. There are two groups who have taken sides on this issue. It is true that after Kinijit was established and until the leaders went to prison, there was a fast progress made in the struggle by both groups. After that, they were not seeing each other eye to eye. But then, you had twenty plus months in prison together. At that time, were you not able to identify those anti-democratic forces and at a minimum prepare yourselves to take action after you came out? Also, what kind of reception do you expect from the Ethiopian people on your return?

Dr. Berhanu: What kind of stand can you take in prison? You may not know that we were in different zones in prison. We have been having many dialogues in our respective zones and no such division was obvious at that time. In fact, we have had many discussions with some of these people and had agreed on many issues and taken similar positions. Once they came out, some of them started talking about organizational loyalty. What I am ashamed of and sad about is how things have changed toward loyalty to individuals.

Q (And Lenatu – Zegnet): I read in your book "Ye Netsanet Goh Siqed" I read how difficult it was to bring Kinijit toward unity. How do you see the present problem in relation to that? Will you go back home after four months to continue to fan the democratic fire that you have started with your friends or as the rumors say, stay here?

Dr. Berhanu: You mean beyond the four months? As far as I know, my plan is to use these four months to do some thinking about the direction of the struggle, arrive at some clear directions, discuss it with my friends and then continue the struggle. Don't doubt that one iota!. We have to fight the forces that are destroying our country and any other undemocratic forces. This is not a national question. It is more personal and one that each of us has an obligation to fight. As I have said before, I am doing this struggle for myself. I am not doing it for the freedom of the Ethiopian people. I want to be able to live freely. I will do anything I can for that freedom. I will not sit quietly when such a rotten and callous bully of a government does everything that it wants to do. I will do whatever it is that I can and I will continue to do that. So, don't even have a question about that. Also, I do not have to give my word to any one. This is something I promise myself to do.

We have had problems uniting Kinijt, no question about it. I have put it clearly in that book in the way I understood it. What is happening now could be a reflection of what was going on then. There are many similarities, no doubt about it. Both have as their basis, the interests of an organization rather than the values of democracy. Essentially, they were and are saying they are bigger and better. It is inherently and deeply undemocratic. That was and is what is going on.

Q (Gibregeb): The situation in Ethiopia does not allow for Kinijit to move around freely and preach its ideology and recruit embers. What kind of a transparent organization is in place to shape the opinion of the Diaspora using the Kinijit ideology and to recruit members?

Dr. Berhanu: As I have tried to respond earlier, these are some of the questions that have to be well thought about and clear directions devised. I hope to use this opportunity to give this question a final answer. I hope that my friends and those in Addis Ababa will use every loophole and every opportunity to continue the struggle. And I hope Kinijit will make all these things clearer with time.

Q (Mumca): The Kinijit name is popular and Woyane likes it. Many have emerged to cripple this name including EPRDF. There are rumors that the Kinijit name may be changed and some Kinijit leaders and you yourself have said some thing to that effect. Since there is power in this name, if anything were to happen and the name were to be changed, would it make a difference?

Dr. Berhanu: Like I said earlier and in many speeches in the past, to me the name Kinijit means nothing. For me, Kinijit is the belief. It is the ideology. It is the strength of its tenets. That is why the Ethiopian people followed it not for the name. It is not like there are no better prettier names out there. Me, my friends and the respected citizens of our community who believe in a strong democratic struggle, do not for a second believe that a name change will have any effect on the political movement beyond a temporary confusion. If we don't, we are giving EPRDF considerable power. Nowadays, it is EPRDF who decides what the name should be. It can give it to Ayele Chamisso or whoever else, whenever it wants. It is this kind of reckless government we have that has the audacity to do these things.

So, are we going to waste our time fighting to get the name back from Ayele Chamisso or are we going to stick with our faith, give that faith a name and move on with our struggle? We have to push that faith. Those of you in the Diaspora should understand this easily. If you remember, when the Israeli Likud party had a problem with the name, the Sharon group broke away and formed a new party called Kaduna. Some 45 of the leaders went out and told the people about their principles and their new name and asked for their vote. In a matter of two or three weeks they run their campaign and won. That is how we have to look at it. Otherwise, it will be giving too much credence to the deception and sabotage of MeEAd (AEUP). So, those of you who are aware of this should know better. Even if we don't get our Kinijit name back, our stand for democracy, and the path we follow together with other democratic forces will make us succeed in Ethiopia. What the Ethiopian people want is democracy not organizational performance. I believe that there is a trusted democratic force in place, which has proved its credibility and ready to lead the people.

Q (Korojo): I think we have a difficult task ahead of us to help this democratically shrouded dream of the people, this Kinijit movement to surge ahead. When I look at the situation after the visit of the Kinijit delegates to North America and Europe, I see a clear-cut position taken by the Diaspora in North America. The European side does not have a clear stance and will be inconsequential unless they reorganize and move foreword. So far, the Diaspora movement seems to be seen as a second tier force. But if the situation at home continues to deteriorate and detentions continue, I think the Diaspora force can play a decisive role if it is very well organized and prepared. What is your take on this?

Dr. Berhanu: I have no doubt that the Diaspora Ethiopians can make an enormous contribution to the movement at home. As you said, when things get worse in Ethiopia and detentions continue, the Diaspora force can play an even more significant role. No question about that. There is hope if our goal is the democratic principles we espouse. If the Diaspora is to be organized in the name of Kinijit, they should organize democratically from the ground up. Kinijit has passed some resolutions. From now on, any group that organizes in support of Kinijit has to do it democratically from bottom up. All officials should be elected and not appointed. That precept has been clearly communicated by the delegates to the supporters, both in North America and Europe. Those of you who are members of these support organizations should elect competent leaders who embody the spirit of Kinijit. But we will fight those who do things as they want.

At home or abroad we have a responsibility not to stand by when we see democratic principles trampled with.

Q: (Atse Tewodros): What is with Ato Hailu Shawel and Dr. Taye Wolde Semayat? How did they meet? We know Dr. Taye was not a Kinijit member. But now, they seem to be sharing the same blanket. Please tell us the truth that is giving us a heart ache.

Dr. Berhanu: You remind me of a saying. All the forest animals got together and asked a monkey why she was so ugly. Her reply was, I hate being beautiful. I wish I knew what got them together. I really don't know (laughs). Some say it is the fight between me and Ato Hailu that caused their union. If that is so, then it is probably Berhanu that did it. How do people make these kinds of political decisions? I don't know. It is bizarre. Let us just leave it at that.

Q: (Mingizem Kinijit): Some three or four people are fighting for ownership of Kinijit. It is common knowledge that Woyane is doing this. Isn't this issue of the name taking a long time to resolve? If there are plans for a name change, what is being done about it?

Dr. Berhanu: My own belief is that we should not spend too much time on the issue of the name. We need to assemble our support quickly and take an immediate action. We should not allow it to drag any longer. To spend months or years in the court of law fighting to get the "Kinijit" name is to hurt the movement. The situation in Ethiopia is very fluid. We need to give directives appropriate to the situation. To leave it in a limbo like this is not good.

Q: (Harari): Another issue that comes up when we talk about Nations and Nationalities is about using the local language as the working language for that region. There is a feeling that Kinijit is coming along to take away that right. If a serious constitutional change is contemplated in the future, how does Kinijit plan to go about it? Is it going to have a referendum or a way where people participate in the process?

Dr. Berhanu: If you look at the premise I mentioned earlier, we believe in individual rights. Both the culture and the language have to be respected even at the individual level, let alone at the group level. No constitution can prevent him from doing that. The individual has to decide what benefits him, what is in his best interest. He talks with his neighbors and to the community at large, to decide what language to use for the education of his children. So, Kinijit has no policy to affect change in a negative way when it comes to language. Outside this, there is a major policy difference with EPRDF that they don't want to talk about. In our new program we have decided to advocate for the use of Oromigna as a second national language. This is a direct result of the respect and honor that Kinijit has for the different ethnic languages of the country. In fact, we believe that our children will benefit from learning these two languages from childhood on. We believe this will cement our unity and make us one. We should not pay attention to the empty, vicious and destructive propaganda of EPRDF that accuses Kinijit of trashing ethnic languages. EPRDF wants this country to be partitioned, wants us to bite each other, want to scare people away from Kinijit telling them to defend themselves. The futile and embarrassing practices of EPRDF, especially since the 2005 elections and as we were going to prison, should be strongly opposed and condemned. Since Kinijit is not alone in its struggle for democracy, we should talk to our friends and family members of different ethnic groups and sensitize them about the need to struggle together.

Q: (Kinijit Zelalem): As an economist, how do you see the figures given by EPRDF about a 10% economic growth and other indicators of growth? Every time we call back home, the talk is about a serious financial crisis. How do you see this 10% economic growth in the face of such abject poverty?

Dr. Berhanu: To respond in short, it takes a lot of study and statistical analysis to get to the truth of the figures. These figures are not reliable. These figures are purposely manipulated and what is worse, the World Bank and IMF do not have their own statistics and use these figures with only minor adjustments. We have addressed this problem numerous times in the past. The truth is we have no alternative figures to go by. But if these figures are true and if the Ethiopian people are content and living comfortably, why is there double digit inflation for the first time in Ethiopian history, more than 23%? There is no question that the economic condition is under a serious strain. There is no doubt that this is extremely hurtful to the poor and the fixed income group. The question I pose to EPRDF is, if the economy is so robust and if the people are so content, they must be happy with it; why don't you come forth for elections with out fraud? Why do you cheat? Why do you resort to tricks of a charlatan?

About people who use slanderous or x-rated language in public: Don't worry about people like that. More than any one, they are disgracing themselves. It shows their stupidity and lack of etiquette. They are panic-stricken, they are lazy, they cannot think, they are rude. That is why it is easier for them to resort to name calling and use of foul language. We have to leave these behind us as we advance our ideals of democracy.

Q (Inkoppa): How does Kinijit plan to utilize the manpower from religious organizations whose philosophy to protect and fight for human rights is along the same lines as that of Kinijit?

Dr. Berhanu: Some times, there are a lot of lessons we can learn from our respective unique history. I truly believe that religious organizations have a strong moral obligation to oppose oppression of universal human rights. Religious organizations preach against killings and oppression of any kind. Religious organizations should be at the forefront of such a struggle. No question about it. They should do it. The situation in our country is very sad. They are supposed to take the moral high ground and teach their membership and congregation. I have said this two or three times in the past. A time in Ethiopian history that resulted in loss of respect for religious organizations was during the time of the Red Terror. Noe of these leaders came out in protest when all those killings of young men and women was happening and when all that shedding of blood of our people was taking place. I have pointed this out directly to these religious leaders, Catholics, Protestants and all, at a meeting in May 2005, barely two weeks before the killings began. I was with Ato Merera, when we asked them to extricate themselves out of the historical scar, further warning them of the impending danger of criminal acts and killings and imprisonments. I begged them to approach the government and to warn it to do no harm. We asked them to protect our society's moral fabric. It is time gain to plead with them to do the right thing. Not only religious leaders, we believe in working with all democratic forces that can join the struggle and move forward with us.

Q (And Lenatu): The principles of Kinijit which are transparency, accountability and democracy appear to now be embraced by such parties like EPRP, Gasha Le Ethiopia and Harinet Tigray, established by Ato Gebru Asrat. What is your opinion about this?

Q( Green-Yellow-Red): Although Kinijit is a coalition of four parties, it is not the parties per se that grabbed the attention of the Ethiopian people. It is the participation of educated Ethiopians like you. I just wanted to raise the need for an urgent action.

Dr. Berhanu: This is the last question I hope. I am glad we are getting to the end of this session. What a relief! It is just like what is going on in your pal talk rooms (laughs).

I can assure you that the present day struggle has to have democratic principles such as, equality under the law and political equality. All organization should have these basic principles. The other opinions should be articulated and brought to the people to choose. The only thing we have to agree on is that after we take our different opinions to the people, we all accept whoever the people choose. If we do this, we will be able to surpass the divisive trap of EPRDF and learn to work together. We will thus be able to rally around a huge popular democratic movement that will force EPRDF to surrender and come to the negotiating table. This is what we have to work on together. (Washera: I presume that does not include EPRDF and its millions and millions of members?)

From now on, together, we have to condemn human right violations anywhere. We have to go out on protests together. We have to show our concern for the Ogaden people, the Oromo people, the Tigrai people, and to all those oppressed people whose thirst for democracy has not been quenched. We have to do this not in words but in deeds. It is the sense of unity and solidarity that comes out of such collaborative efforts that will keep that country undivided. That is why we have to go back. That is why we have to struggle. There is no question about this.

Those who think this is just cheap talk or gossip; those who think politics is chicanery; those who have no ability to think about an idea that they can advance to convince people; those who come out in the open to talk to people, listen to other people's ideas and do not have the ability to process the merits of these ideas, but instead resort to name calling and insinuations should not surprise us. They don't know any better. My plea for those of you who say you stand for democracy, those of you who stand for the democratic movement, is to avoid such filth and extricate yourselves from that kind of company. Any one with ideas should be able to have a discourse of idea. Listen to him. If you have differences, debate him. If you have questions ask him. If you have disagreements, stick by your truth and don't give in. Beyond that, do not answer rude talk with rudeness; don't lower yourself to their level. Don't go there. Such people work better with EPRDF, because they are the same. They eliminate those that they don't like. They stamp out ideas they don't agree with. They disgrace, insult, lie and deceive. This is what EPRDF does. It kills, imprisons and tortures its opponents. So, please don't give answers to these people. Don't go there. Elevate yourselves. Argue ideas with ideas, but do not resort to immoral acts and behaviors.

(Washera: Amen! may the best man/woman with the best ideas win!)

Dr. Berhanu Nega's Interview on Ethiopian Current Affairs Discussion Forum (Paltalk) on December 3, 2007.

AMHARIC VERSION: Prepared by Washera_2000


ENDELLIBEU: YE KINIJIT ANDINET INA DEMOCRATIC PARTY YE LAILAY MIKIR BET ABAL, INDIHUM YE ADDIS ABEBA TEMERACH KENTIBA, DR BERHANU ABREWUN NEW YALUT; XENAYISIXILIGN DR BERHANU, BE KIDIMIA BE ETHIOPIAN CURRENT AFFAIRS DISCUSSION FORUM XIRIYACHININ AKIBIREW SILEKEREBU IJIG BEXAM ADIRIGEN INAMESEGINALEN.

DR BERHANU: BEXAM NEW YEMAMESEGINEW. ISKAHUNIM BIZU GIZE GABIZACHIHUGN MEMIXAT BALEMECHALE YIQIRITA IXEYIQALEHU. KEZA BETECHEMARI GIN, ZARE YEMADERIGEEW WUYIYIT KINIJITIN WEKIYE OR MINAMIN SAYIHON INDE BERHANU YEQEREBIKU MEHONEN HULUM SEW INDIYAWUQEW NEW.

ENDELLIBU: BEXAM INAMESEGINALEN, IGNA BEZAW MELIKU NEW YASITEWAWEQINEW. KE ISIR KETEFETACHIHU BEHUALA BE ETHIOPIA YALEW YETIGIL TENESASHINET SIMET MIN YIMESILAL? KEWUCHI YALEW TENESASHINET MIN YIMESILAL? BE WUCH AGERIS GUZOACHIHU MIN TEMELIKITACHIHUAL? ISKI YIHENIN ZERSZER ADIRIGEW YASIREDUN

DR. BERHANU: WELL, INDEMITAWIQUT KESIR SINIFETA OR LINIFETA AKABABI, EHADEG IDERADERALEHU BILO, BESHIMAGILOCHU BEKUL WUYIYIT BEZA WUYIYIT LAY AT LEAST KE SHIMAGILEWOCHU GAR MEGIBABAT TEDERESEBACHEW YETEBALUTIN NEGEROCH BEMULU AFIRISO, BEWUNETU LIL LIBAL YEMAYICHIL TERA YEDURIYE SIRA, YANIN TEXEQIMO DEGMO SIMACHININ LASIR QEN BEFEJE PROPAGANDA AXIFITO, KEZA SINIWEXA POLETICALLY MOTEWAL, GEDIYACHEWALEHU BILO NEBERE YASEBEW. LIK BEWEXAN QEN JEMIRO BE ETHIOPIA YEMITAYEW SIMET, YE ETHIOPIA HIZB YADEREGELIN AQEBABEL CLEARLY YEMIYASAYEW, YE ETHIOPIA HIZB KE KINIJIT GAR YALEW GINIGNUNET, KINIJIT REPRESENT KEMIYADERIGEW IDEA, KINIJIT REPRESENT KEMIYADERIGEW OR LIYADERIG QORXO KETENESALET YE DEMOCRACY FILAGOT GAR YETEXABEQE INJI, BE TINISH PROPAGANDA YEMIFERIS INDALIHONE YASAYABET NEW. INA HIZIBU LE DEMOCRACY YALEWUN FILAGOT PROBABLY YEBELEXE TEXENAKIRO INDEHONE NEW INJI YETEDAKEME AYIMESILIM. XIYAQE YALEW, YIHENIN YE DEMOCRACY INQISIQASE WEDEFIT GEFITO IDAR LEMADIRES YEMIYASICHIL YESEKENE, QURIXEGNINET YALEW, YE MORAL YEBELAYNET YALEW INQISIQASE MEMIRAT MECHAL. YIHENIN NEW INGIDIH KINIJITU LEMADERIG YEMOKEREW. KE WEXAN BEHUALA YETEFEXEREW SIMET TEMESASAY NEW BE WUCH AGER YAYENEW. GIN INDEMITAWEQEW, BE KINIJT WUSX YETEFEXEREW ADDIS SIMET, YIHENIN TENESASHINET INA YIHENIN YE HIZB YE DEMOCRACY FILAGOT, QEZIQAZA WUHA LEMECHEMER YEMOKERE HONO YALFAL BIYE NEW YEMASIBEW. BECAUSE, YE ETHIOPIA HIZAB YEMIFELIGEW, NETSANETINA DEMOCRACY NEW. YANIN ISIKIYAGEGN DIRES, TIGILUIN YIQETILAL BIYE NEW MINIM ALITERATERIM.

ENDELLBU: DR BERHANU, INGIDIH BE WUCH AGERIM YAYUT YIHENIN NEW. KINIJIT YALEBET HUNETA MIN LAY NEW BILEW YASIBALU? QIDIM INDETEQESUT, BETELEY BE KINIJIT WUST YETEFETEREW NEGER ADDIS NEW. HULACHINIM INASIB YENEBEREW, YE KINIJIT SEWOCH HULU IJIG BETAM DEMOCRAT YEHONU NACHEW BILEN NEBER. SEMONUN DEGMO YEMINAYEW YA AYINET HUNETA AYIDELEM. INA, BEWUNET YIHE MORALIN YEMINEKA NEW, ALIFO ALIFO. ISTI AHUN BE KINIJT WUST YALEWUN INA KINIJIT MIN LAY NEW YALEW YEMILUTIN BINEGIRUN.

DR BERHANU: YIHE ALIFO ALIFO MORAL YEMINEKA NEW YEMILEW NEGER, BENE IMINET NEGERUN BEXAM YEMIYASANISEW NEW. YIHE BAND BEKUL YAYENEW FITSUM YE MORAL DENTABISNET, FITSUM LEMAXIFAT FEQADEGNINET, DEEP DOWN YEHONE E-DEMOCRACIYAWINET, BEWUNET HULACHININIM YEMIYASAFIR, HULACHININIM YEMIYASHEMAQIQ, TIGILUNIM YEMIYASAFIR, BENE IMINET, BEXAM NEWUREGAN YEHONE INQISIQASE NEW. BEZIH, HIZIBU BIBESACH, HIZIBU BIYAZIN, HIZIBU INEGNIH NEBERU WEY DEMOCRACY LIYAMEXULIN YENEBERUT BILO BIGEREM, BEFITSUM LIGERIMEN YEMIGEBA AYIDELEM. INE AYIGERIMEGNIM. INKUAN LELAW SEW, INE IRASE DISGUSTED NEW YEHONIKUT. INE LELA QAL SILELELEGN NEW. INDIH AYINET TERA RIKASH YEHONE, NO LIJOCHACHININ ATADIRIGU YEMINILEWUN TERA BILIGINA, WUSHET, QIXIFET YE POLETIKA TIGIL ADIRIGO MEHED, MECHEM BEXAM BEXAM, INE LELA QALATIM YELEGN, BEXAM YEMIYASAFIR NEW. I HOPE, HIBIRETESEBU SEWOCHIN WEYIM XIQIT SEWOCHIN KEMAYET ALIFO LE IWUNETEGA DEMOCRACY YEQOME MEHONUN, KETERA CHUHET INA WERE ALIFO, LE IWUNETEGNA DEMOCRACY COMMITTED YEHONE, FILAGOTU YA MEHONUN YEMIYASAYIBET, KEZIH NEXIRO YEWEXA IMINETINA XINIKARE BEMECHERESHA YINOREWAL BIYE TESFA ADERIGALEHU. TIGILU WUSX CHIGIROCH ALU. YIHE MINIM YEMIYASIGERIM NEGER ADELEM. BE KINIJIT WUSX YETEFEXEREWUN NEGER AYANESUTIM SEWOCH, BETECHEMARI LEMABABAS, LEMASIFAFAT. INDEZIH YE BILIGINA POLETIKA INDIHON LEMADIREG YEMIMOKIRUNA BEZIH YEMIXEQEMU BIZU HAILOCH ALU. BEZIH BEXAM YEMIXEQEMEW INDEMITAWIQUT EHADEG NEW. INDIH INGA BEMIYASIAFIR HUNETA CHIQA SINIWERAWER, EHADEG MENIDEROCH YAQAXILAL BE AEROPLAN, ZEGOCHACHININ RAPE YADERIGAL, YIGELAL. ISUN INKUAN QOM BILEN ERE LEMINDINEW INDEZIH YEMIHONEW BE ZEGOCHACHIN LAY LEMALET INDANICHIL, BENDIH AYINET TIRKI MIRIKI, GIZEACHIN INDIXEFA MADIREGU MECHEM BEXAM BEXAM YEMIYASAFIR NEW. BEWUNETU YEMIYASAZIN NEGER NEW.

TAYE (MACHEW, KE CALGARY): YENE XIYAQE AHUN KALUT KETENESUT GUDAOYCH GAR TEYAYIZO LIHED YICHILAL. YIHEW YETEJEMEREWUN YE FITIH INA YE DEMOCRACY TIGIL, WEDE GIL INA WEDE MEZELALEF BEMAWURED, YIHEW BEMIYASAZIN MELIKU, KE QINIJIT LAELAY MIKIR BET ABALAT JEMIRO, WEDETACH WEDE DEGAFIW MEWUREDU IJIG YEMIYASAZIN NEW. BEZIH MELIKU, YE IRISON IZIH BE AMERICA FELLOWSHIP AGIGNITO YEMEQIRETUN GUDAY BETEMELEKETE, BERKATA NEGEROCH YINESALU. ISTI, IRISO YEQOYOBETIN MIKINIYAT INA WEDE AGER BET MECHE INDEMIMELESU KERISO INISIMANA KEZIA LAY TENIDERIDIREN YEMINESUTIN NEGEROCH LINANESA INICHILALEN. YIHENIN ISTI BIZEREZIRULIN BEMEJEMERIA.

DR BERHANU: INE IKO BEZIHM GUDAY LAY MIN MISTIR NORO, YEWERE MESERETIM INDEMIHONIM AYIGEBAGNIM. INE GENA AMERICA INDEMEXAHU, NEW YORK NEW SCHOOL NIGIGIR SADERIG, AWARD SISEXEGN KE GERMAN DIMITS RADIO GAR INTERVIEW ADIRIGE NEBER. BEZA GIZE AWARIDU MIN YAXEQALIL SIL, YIHENIN YE AND SEMESTER FELLOWSHIP INDEMIYAXEQALIL, YIHE FELLOWSHIP QUCH BILO LEMETSAF, LEMASEB, LEMASELASEL IDIL YEMISEX MEHONUN, YIHEN DEGMO IDIL BEXAM MEXEQEM INDEMIFELIG, SILEZIHIM SEMEN AMERICA YEMEXAW TOUR KALEQE BEHUALA YIHENIN SIRA INDEMIJEMIR BEFIT NEW YETENAGERIKUT. AHUNIM ISUNU NEW YEMADERIGEW. AHUN INDIYAWUM YEBELEXE, KEMINIGIZEW YEBELEXE YIHEN NEGER MADIREGU BEXAM TEGEBI NEW BIYE ASIBALEHU. MIKINIYATUM, BE AHUNU GIZE KINIJITN WEXIRO YEYAZEW, BEXAM BEMIYASAZIN HUNETA, YIHE YE IRIS BERIS CHIQICHIQINA TIRIKI MIRIKI NEW. KEZIH BELAY HEDO, YE DEMOCRACY TIGILU WEDEFIT INDET NEW YEMIHEDEW? MIN AYINET MESIMER MEYAZ ALEBET? YE STRATEGY AQIXACHACHIN MIN MEHON ALEBET? YIHE YE STRATEGY AQIXACHA LEWUX YASIFELIGEWAL AYASIFELIGEWUM? YEMILU HASABOCHIN LEMASEB LEMASELASELINA AND NEGER LEMAWUXAT INKUAN IDIL YEMISEX ALIHONEM. INA YIHENIN IDIL AGIGNITO, QUCH BILO YIHENIN ADIRIGO, YEWEDEFIT TIGILACHIN BEMIN MELIK YIHEDAL YEMILEWUN LEMASITAWESINA LEMASELASEL GIZE MAGIGNET, BE AHUNU GIZE BEXAM BEXAM TILIQ NEGER NEW. ANDAND SEWOCH, YELEM YIHE INDALE HONO, YIHE XIRO HONO, GIN AGER WUSX YALEWN YIHE CHIQICHIQ ANTE HEDEH BITAGIZEW YEBELEXE AYIXEQIMIM WEY? YEMIL XIYAQE YANESALU. INE BENE IMINET, AYIDELEHUM INE, LELOCHUM KEZIH NITIRIKINA CHIQICHID BIWEXU NEW TIGILUN YEBELEXE YEMIXEQIMEW BIYE YEMASIBEW. LELOCHU, YIHE DEMOCRACIYAWI TIGILUN LEMEQEXEL YALIFELEGU, BE INKA SILANTIYA GIZEACHEWUN MAXIFAT YEFELEGU SEWOCH, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE LEFT, YEMIYADERIGUTIN INDIQEXILU. LE DEMOCRACY QOMENAL IMINIL HAILOCH, AYINACHININ KEZIH CHIQICHIQ ANISITEN, WEDE WANAW PART LAY, QUASUM DEGMO EHADEGIN METAGEL, EHADEGIN GEBITO BE DIRIDIR WEDE DEMOCRACIYAWI INTIN IDIMEXA MEGIFAT, YIHE KALHONE MIN AMARACH ALE BILO MASEB, LEZA YEMIMEXIN DIRIJIT, LEZA YEMIMEXIN HIZB MASEBASEBINA MADERAJET, YA NEW TILIQU SIRACHIN MEHON YALEBET. YIHENIN NEW MESIRAT YALEBIN. INJI, YOU KNOW, BEYE LETU BEMIFEXERU TESADABIWOCH EMIYANESUT SIDIB GIZEACHININ IYAXEFAN, ZARE AYBAYNEH MIN ALE? NEGE KEBEDE MIN ALE? INE YA REALLY A WASTE OF YEGNA RESOURCES. INA, INQUAN INEM TEDEMIREBET, YIHE YEMIDEREGEWUN TIRIMIS, LELOCHUM INDIWEXUBETINA WEDE WANAW SIRA BIGEBU NEW DES YEMILEGN, INKUAN GEBICHE KENESU GAR BEZIH LINIGEDAGED. SO, YALITAYEGN INE MIN MADIREG INDEMICHAL. INE YIHE NEGER YEMIXEQIMEN NEGER AYIMESILEGNIM. INGDIH HULUM WEDEFIT TEMELIKITO, YIHIN TIGIL WEDET INIWESIDEWALEN BEMILEW LAY CONCENTRATE BIYADERIG YISHALEGNAL. INA WORTHWHILE YEHONE TIGILIM AYDELEM LENE.

ENDELLBU: TADIA YIHEN KINIJIT AYDELEM INDE MEFITAT YALEBET? KINIJIT YERASU YEHONE METEDADERIA DENIB INA MANIFESTO ALEW. KEZA YETELALEFUTIN INDET NEW MEQOXAXER YEMICHALEW? YA KALIQOME TADIA INDET ADIRIGEN NEW WEDE TIGILIS YEMINIGEBAW?

DR. BERHANU: AHUN IKO BIZUWOCHACHUHU MIN YAHIL INDEMITAWIQU ASERARUN ALAWIQIM. YE KINIJIT YE LAELAY MIKIR BET IKO LEMESEBISEBIM, BEFIT BETEBALEW BE INTINU MESERET KETEHEDE, HULUM SIDE ABIRO TESEBISIBO NEW SIBISEBA MAKIYAHEDINA IRIMIJA MEWUSED YEMINICHILEW. AYDELEM INDE? YIHENIN KESELASA MINAMIN BELAY YEHONU, ATLEAST QUORUM MOLITEW, YANIN SIBISEBA ARIGEW, DIRIJITAWI WUSANE LEMEWESEN, INEGNIH HULET HAILOCHIM AND LAYHONEW MESEBISEB ALEBACHEW. IMINISEMAW GIN YALENEW, ANIDEGNAW HAIL ATLEAST AQIXACHA LEYITO, IRASU LEBICHAW IYETENIQESAQESE NEW. THEN, INDET ADIRIGEH NEW SEBISIBEH YANIN INEGNAN WUSANEWOCH YEMITAREGEW NEW YEMAYITAWEQEW. INE BEXAM YEMIYASASIBEGN, BEZIH NITIRIKINA BEZIH INTIN MINIM SAYISERA, ADELEM WERAT AMETAT LIYALIFU YICHILALU. UNLESS OTHERWISE TOLO BILEN IMINIQUACHIBETINA IMINIQORIXIBET MENIGED KALAGEGNINA, WEDEFIT YEMINIHEDIBETIN MENIGED INTIN KALAREGIN, QUCH BILO QUORUM YIMULANA YA YE KINIJIT WUSANE YIWOSEN TEBILO KETEXEBEQE, MECHEM QUORUM INDEMIMOLA AYITAWEQIM . YIHE NEW CHIGIRU. BAND BEKUL IKO YALEW HAIL, KINIJIT TESEBISIBO DEMOCRACIYAWI WUSANE INDIYADERIG YEMIFELIG HAIL AYIDELEM. INDE, TSEBU ISU ADELEM INDE? GENA KEMEJEMERIYAWUM IKO, KINIJIT YEWESENEWUN WUSANE ANIQEBELIM YALU IKO NACHEW. YOU KNOW, LEMINDINEW YE KINIJITUN WUSANE, TIKIKILEGNA WUSANE INDIWESIN TEGIBARAWI YEHONE IRIMIJA YIWESIDALU BILEN YEMINIXEBIQEW? INE LEZIH NEW, YOU KNOW, INE BAND BEKUL YEMAYEW, BETILIQ DEREJE IYETENIQESAQESUBET YALU YEMIMESILEW, BEHIGAWI, BEDIRIJITAWIW DENIBINA SIRIAT MESERET YEMINQESAQES DIRIJIT INDAYINOR NEW YEMIYASIQOMUT YALUT. YIHEN NEW IYADEREGU YALUT. SO, YIHE INGIDIH LEMAFIRES, CAPACITY YALEW SEW, LEMAFIRES FEQADEGNINET YALEW SEW LIYAIREG YEMICHILEWUN DAMAGE NEW IYAYEN YALENEW. NOW, LEMAFIRES SAYIHON CONSTRUCT LEMADIREG YEMIQOMU HAILOCH, YIHENIN YE AFIRASHOCHUN INQISIQASE AYITO, YET, DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIATUN WEDEFIT LEMARAMED, DEMOCRACIYAWI TIGILUN LEMARAMED YETESHALEW SILIT YETU NEW BILO, YEMINQESAQESIBET, YEMIYASIBIBET GIZE AHUN NEW. GIZE YELEM. LENESU ANTICS, BEYEGIZEW LEMIFEXIRUT, KINIJIT YIHENIN WUSANE WESINO WEDEFIT INDAYINIQESAQES LEMIFEXIRUACHEW ANTICS INA INQIFATOCH INTIN MEHON YELEBINIM. SELEBA MEHON YELEBINIM. YOU KNOW, DECISIVE YEHONE, CLEAR YEHONE AQIXACHA QEYISEN MENIQESAQES ALEBIN NEW IMILEW.

TAYE (MACHEW, KE CALGARY): KEZIHU GAR ABIRO YEMIHED NEW. AND XIYAQE BINOREGNIM, ISUN TEMELISHE IMEXABETALEHU. DC MEJEMERIYAW SIBISEBA LAY BETILIQU SIBISEBA LAY YAQEREBUT TSIHUF ALE. KEZAM ANISITEW, SELAMAWI TIGILUN MEGIFAT INDEMICHAL INA, BE HIZB INQISIQASE WEYIM DEGMO BEMEDERAJET, WOYANEN MANEW EHADEGIN YEMINIXILEW YEMIL IMINET ALOT. BELELA SIDE DEGMO, BELELA YE POLETIKA DIRIJITIM YIHUN, BE LELA ETHIOPIYAWUYAN BEKUL DEGMO, YIHE MELESALES AYAWAXAM, YETIM AYADERISIM, FITSUM MELESALES NEWUNA LEWUX LIYAMEXA AYICHILIM BILEW YIKERAKERALU. IRISO BEZIH LAY YALOT MEKERAKERIA NEXIB MINIDINEW? SELAMAWI TIGILUN LEMADIREG, KE WOYANE GARA MEDERADER, WEDE XEREPEZA ZURIA MEMIXAT, INA YIHENIN CHIGIR BE NIGIGIR MEFITAT YEMIL XENIKARA AQUAM ALOT. YIHENIN AQUAM MELESALES YILUTAL. YIHE ABABAL TIKIKIL NEW WEY? SEFA ARIGEW BITENETINULIN.

DR. BERHANU: HULET NEGER LIMELISILIH. YEMEJEMERIYAW, YIHEN HULU LEMASEB NEW IKO GIZE YEMIYASIFELIGEW. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT TO DO, AND THAT IS WHAT I AM GONNA DO. HULETEGNAW GIN YIHE, MELESALES NEW YILUTAL YEMILEW, YETIGNAWUN PART MELESALES INDEMILUT ALAWUQIM. IF, SELAMAWI TIGIL BAXEQALAY MELESALES NEW MALETACHEW KEHONE, YOU KNOW, SELAMAWI TIGIL MAEQEF WUSX YALUT INQISIQASEWOCH MIN LIHONU INIDEMICHILU, INA MIN AYINET XENIKARA GIFIT BEMENIGIST LAY LIXILU INDEMICHILU, EVEN ZIM BILEW XEMENIJAM YIZEW KETAGELU HAILOCHIM BELAY BE 97 BETEDEREGEW MIRICHA MIN YAHIL MENIGIST INDETENIQEXEQEXE MAYET YICHALAL. NOW, YIH MALET GIN, YA HAIMANOT NEWUN, QORIBENIBETALINA, HULEM IMINIKETELEW AND TACTIC NEW MALET ADELEM. IFACT, SUGGEST IKO YADEREKUT YALEHUT YIHENIN NEW. RE-THINK YASIFELIGAL. QUCH BILEN MASEB ALEBIN. STRATEGIW, AHUN KE MIRCHA 97 YETEQEYEREW HUNETA, YE HIZIB DIMITSIN SERIQO, BEGULIBET DEFIXIXO, IQEXILALEHU YALE MENIGIST, KAHUN BEHUALA, ZIM BILO BE MIRICHA BICHA MENIBERE SILIXANUN LEMELIQEQ FEQADEGNA YIHONAL WEY? MIN AYINET PRESSURE BIFEXERIBET NEW WEDE IWUNETEGNA NEGOTIATION MEHED IMICHILEW? YIHEN KALADEREGE MASIGEDEJA MENIGED ALEN WEY? YA MASIGEDEJA MENIGED MINIDINEW? INEGNIH INEGNIHN NEW MEWEYAYET, MEKERAKER AND BASED ON THIS, WUYIYITINA KIRKIR, AND AMARACH IMIBAL STRATEGY MEQIREB YALEBET. YA NEW, SERIOUS YEHONE THINKING YASIFELIGEWAL. SERIOUS YEHONE MASELASEL YASIFELIGEWAL. KEZIH TERET TERET YE CHIQA WURWERA WEXITEN, ASIBEN, INDEDIRIJIT HONE INDE IZIH MOVEMENT WUSIX YETEQELAQELINE YETELEYAYE HAILOCH, MENIQESAQES YALEBIN INDEZA DELIBERATE HONEN, BEDENIB GEMITEN NEW, NEW YALIN YALENEW. SO, YETUN INDEHONE MELESALES YEMILUT ALAWUQIM,

TAYE (MACHEW, KE CALGARY): SEMONUN BE EMF DIHIRE GETS LAY WEXITO INDAYENEW, WEDE PORTUGAL LISBON YIGUAZALU. IZAM BE AFRICA YE HUMAN RIGHT INA YE TADAGI HAGEROCH GUDAY YETEZEGAJE ALEM AQEF SIBISEBA TEGABAJ NOT. BEZIH SIBISEBA LAY MINIDINEW YERISO DIRISHA? MINIS YIXEBIQALU KEZIH SIBISEBA? YIH SIBISEBAM LAY XEQILAY MINISTER MELES ZENAWIM INDEMIGEGNU TESEMITOAL. KEZIH SIBSEBA LAY MIN YIXEBIQALU?. YERISOS YETEGABEZUBET MIKINIYAT MINIDINEW?

DR. BERHANU: YE LISBON SIBISEBA HULET SIBISEBAWOCH NACHEW YALUT. ANIDEGNAW EU-AFRICA SUMMIT YEMIBALEW, BE AFRICA MERIWOCHINA BE AUROPA MERIWOCH MEHAKEL, MENIGIST LE MENIGIST YEMIDEREG WUYIYIT NEW. INA SIBISEBA NEW. YIHENIN ASITAKO, MERIWOCHUM IZA SILEMINORU, PRESSIM IZA SILEMINOR MINAMIN, MORE YE CIVIL SOCIETY INTIN, HUMAN RIGHT INA, YE SEBIAWI MEBITINA, YE IDIGET, YE MELIKAM ASITEDADER XIYAQEWOCHIN LEMEMELIKET, AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL YAZEGAJEW YE AND QEN SIBISEBA ALE. IZA SIBISEBA LAY KEMIQERIBUT PRESENTATIONOCH ANDU, BE ETHIOPIA LAY NEW. BE ETHIOPIA LAY YIHENIN INDAQERIB YETEGABEZIKUT INE NEGN. INA BEZIH SIBISEBA LAY, BENE BEKUL MAQIREB IMIFELIGEW, YE SEBIAWI MEBIT HUNETA INDET IYETEBABASE, IYETEBABASE, BEXAM BEXAM REALLY AGERINIM LIYASAFIR BEMICHIL MELIKU, INDET ASIQEYAMI IYEHONE INDEHONE, LEMASAYET INA LE AUROPA HIBIRETIM HONE LELOCH AGEROCH, YE MELESIN MENIGIST, YE SEBIAWI MEBIT AFENANA REGEXA, ZIM BILO KAYEW, YANIN AKABABI YEBELETXE MEREGAGAT YELELEBET, YE XORINET QEXENA INIDEMIYADERIGEWUNA, YIH INDAYIHON, MENIGISTAT HULU GIFITACHEWUN MADIREG INA, BE ETHIOPIA LAY YALACHEWUN POLICY INDEGENA MEMERIMER INDALEBACHEW LEMASASEB NEW IMIFELIGEW. ISUN NEW IMADERIGEW.

GUREZA: YENE XIYAQE WEDE MIRICHA 97 YIWESIDENAL. KEZAM GAR TEYAYIZO, YE MECHIWUN ZEMEN YE POLETIKA INQISIQASE IDIL, LIMEREMIRU INA LIYABIRARUBET BEMICHILUBET HUNETA LAY YATEKURAL. MIRICHA 97 KINIJITIN ARAT DIRIJITOCH MESIRITEW, BE MIRICHA WUDIDIR WUSIX MEGIBATACHEW YITAWEQAL. KEZAM BEHUALA DEGMO, WOYANE YE MIRICHAWUN HUNETA BEMIN MELIKU INDAZEBERAREQEW, INDAFENEWUNA INDEQEMA YE HIZIBIN DIMITS, GILITS NEW. YA HUNETA BALEBET, ARATU DIRIJITOCH WUHIDET MEMESIRETACHEWUM YITAWEQAL. BIZUWIN GIZE, KEZA BEHUALA YETEFEXEREWUN HULACHINIM YEMINAWUQEW NEGER NEW. AHUN, HUNETAWOCH QENA HONEW BIHON NORO, KINIJIT YE SELAMAWI SHIGIGIR TEDERIGO SILIXAN YIZO BIHON NORO, AHUN IYETAYE YALEW IJIG ASAZAGN HUNETA, MIN MELIK YINOREW NEBER? LE HIG YEBELAYINET, LE DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIAT YETAGELE, AHUNIM BEMETAGEL LAY YALE DIRIJIT MEHONUN SALIZENEGA NEW YIHENIN XIYAQE YEMAQERIBEW. HULETEGNAW XIYAQEYE, PARTIWOCH TEDERAJITEW AND PARTY MEFIXERACHEW INDE TALAQ DIL YEMIQOXER BIHONIM, WEDEFIT YE WOYANEN AGEZAZ BE DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIAT LEMETEKAT, BE DIRIJITOCH MEKEKEL YEMIDEREGU TIBIBIROCHIN, WEYIM WUHIDETOCHIN, SIGAT LAY AYIXILIM WEY AHUN YETEFEXEREW HUNETA? MIN AYINET WASTINA NEW YEMISEXEW, LE ETHIOPIA YE POLETIKA NETSA IDIL ? YE ETHIOPIA HIZIBIS YE ETHIOPIA YE POLETIKA HAILOCH TEBABIREW, BE AND MEDIREK LAY MEXITEW, YEMIYADERIGUTIN INIQISIQASE BE XIRIXARE INDIYAYEW AYIGABIZIM WEY?

DR. BERHANU: YE MEJEMERIAYAW XIYAQE, YIHE FERENIJOCH "TRICK QUESTION" YEMILUT NEW. "SILIXAN YIZACHIHU BIHON NORO MIN YIMEXA NEBER" NEW. I MEAN, IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT QUESTION TO ANSWER. YIHEN YEMILEW LEMINDINEW, ZIM BILEH QUCH BILEH, AHUN YALUT CHARACTERS, AHUN YIHENIN ASINEWARI NEGER IYASAYU YALUT CHARACTERS HULU, "SILXAN YIZEW BIHON NORO MIN YIHON NEBER" BILEH BITIXEYIQ ZIM BILO BEGIMIT LEMEMELES YEMIKEBIDEW LEMINDINEW, KE SILIXAN GAR TEYAYIZO YEMIMEXA RESPONSIBILITY INA INSTITUTIONS, TEQUAMAT SILEMINORU, INESU MIN YAHIL GEDEB ABEJITEWULET MEREN INIDAYILEQ LIYADERIGUT YICHILALU YEMILEW NEGER MEMELES ATICHILIM. XIRIXAREH GIN, INTINIH GIN YIGEBAGNAL. I AM SURE INE, AHUN YALEWUN HUNETA YEMIYAY SEW HULU, SAYSEQEXIXEW AYIQERIM, SAYIFERA AYIQERIM. YIHE NEBER WOY YEMILEW. HULETEGNAW TIYAQEH LAY YALEW ISSUE MINIDINEW, INE BEWUNET NEW YEMILACHIHU, YE MIRICHA 97 TIGIL, MELESIN YEMAWURED TIGIL BICHA ALINEBEREM. MIRICHA 97 GIN, MELES WERDO SILEMITEKAW SIRIAT NEBER BEWANENT TIKUR. DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIAT YEMEFIXER XIYAQE NEBER. DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIAT MALET, YE HIG YEBELAYINET, BE HIG YEMITEDADER, HIG YEMIYAKEBIR SIRIAT NEW. NOW, BE HIG YEMITEDADER, HIG YEMIYAKEBIR YE HIG SIRIAT YEMIJEMEREW KE DEMOCRACIYAWI DIRIJIT NEW. KE DEMOCRACIYAWI GILESEB, KE DEMOCRACIYAWI DIRIJIT NEW. MESERETAWI YEHONE YE DIRIJITIN HIG, MESERETAWI YEHONE DEMOCRACIYAWI MERIHO YEMAYIQEBEL SEW, INDET ADIRIGO DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIATIN LEMAMIXAT ITAGELALEHU INIDEMIL, INE BEFITSUM AYIGEBAGNIM. YIHE NEGER KETENESA JEMIRO YEMITAYIT IKO NEW. XIYAQEW AND SUBSTANCE YALEW GUDAY SEMITACHIHU TAWUQALACHIHU? AND NEGER? SIMPLY, THE ONLY ISSUE THERE IS, IS DEMOCRACIYAWI BEHONE MENIGED, DIRIJITU YEWESENEWUN WUSANE, YEMAKIBER YALEMAKIBER XIYAQE NEW. YIHENIN YEMAYAKEBIRU SEWOCH, BE DIRIJITACHEW WUSX YALU SEWOCH, LE LARGER SOCIETY, DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIATIN YIFEXIRALU BILO MASEB, IT IS REALLY REALLY REALLY DIFFICULT. YOU KNOW, AND NEGER REALLY, HULIGIZE, BE CHINIQILATACHIN MEYAZ YALEBIN NEGER ALE. INE IMAMINIBETIN NEGER, DEMOCRACY, DEMOCRACY IS NOT, SILEMINAMINIBET GUDAY ADELEM. DEMOCRACY, YETELEYAYE IMINET YALACHEW SEWOCH, YANIN IMINETACHEWUN ACHACHILEW, SILEMINORUBET YEMAHIBERE SEB SIRIAT NEW YEMIYAWERAW. INE INEZIH SEWOCH MIN AMENU ADELEM. MANACHINIM MIN AMENIN AYIDELEM. IMINETACHIN YEYERASACHIN NEW. YEFELEGUTIN LIYAMINU YICHILALU. YANIN IMINET GIN, LEHULUM GILITS BEHONE, HULUM BEMIYAWUQEW HIG MESERET LE HIZIB AQIRIBO, HIZB YIHENIN NEW YEMIMERIXEW BILO, BEMEREXEW YEMITEDADERIBET; YA HASAB YEWEDEQEBACHEW SEWOCH, ISHI TERAYEN XEBIQE, DEGMO BEMIQEXILEW ANESAWALEHU BILEW, HEDEW, GIN LEZA HASAB GEZI LEHONEWUNA, YE BELAYINENT LAGEGNEW HASAB LITEDADERUBET; YE HIDET SIRIAT NEW. YOU KNOW, INA, YAN SIRIAT YAFERESE SEW, BE IMINETE, MELES ZENAWIN LEMEXAL SILEMIFELIG, DEMOCRACIYAWI NEGN BILEGN, ATIQELID NEW IMILEW. INDIH AYINET CHEWATA YELEM. YOU KNOW, MELES ZENAWIN LEMEXAL, KE LIBE IMINET KALEHINA, BE MELES ZENAWI BOTA YEMITEKAW, IWINETEGNA DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIAT MEHONUN KALASAYEHEGN, LEZA IWUNETEGNA DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIAT LEMEGEZAT FEQADEGNA KALIHONIK, MELESIN MEXILATIH, ALEMEWUDEDIH, WEYIM MELESIN WOYANE BEMALETIH, YETESHALIKU DEMOCRAT NEGN; INE BEZIH YEMIMOGN, BEZIH YEMITALEL SEW, KE AHUN BEHUALA YALE AYIMESILEGNIM. KEZA BETECHEMARI GIN LANESAHEW XIYAQE, "YIHE BE DIRIJOTOCH MEHAKEL YEMIFEXERU HIBIRETOCH, GINIGNUNETOCH, WEDEFIT KEBAD AYAREGACHEWUM WEY?" YAREGACHEWAL. GIN, BEZAW LIK, I THINK YEBELEXE TEMIRENAL, YEBELEXE SEKINENAL BIYE ASIBALEHU KEZIH LIMID, INA IMIMESERETU IMINETOCH, BE HIDET LAY, BETELEY BE DEMOCRACYAWI SIRIAT LAY, HULUM IMISMAMABET, IMITEMAMENIBET, YANIN SIRIAT YEMIYANITSEBARIQ MEHONU BEGILITS YETAWEQEBET, YANINIM BE TEGIBAR LEMEFETEN IRIGITEGNA YEHONU DIRIJITOCH YALUBET KALIHONE BEQER, ZIM BILO LE GIZEYAWI NEGER, LE LEBEXA, YEMIDAREG INTIN MEHON YELEBETIM. MESERETAWI IMINETOCH ALU. DEMOCRACY MESERETAWI IMINETOCHIN AYAQERARIBIM. ISLAMUN CHRISTIAN MADIREG ANICHILIM, CHRISTIANUN ISLAM MADIREG ANICHILIM, BE DEMOCRACY. ISILAMUM ISILIMINAWUN YIZO, CHRISTIANUM CHRISTINAWUN YIZO, ANIMISTUM ANIMIZIMUN YIZO, AND LAY GIN BAND AGER YEMINORUBETIN MENIGED NEW YEMIFEXIRUT. SO, AND IMIYADERIGEN, AND LAY ABIRO LEMENOR YEMIYASIMAMAN METHOD LAY MESIMAMAT NEW. KE AHUN BEHUALA YEMIFEXERU DIRIJITOCH, IZA METHOD LAY YEMISMAMU, GILITS YEHONE AQUAM YALACHEW, YANIN BETEGIBAR LEMAWAL FEQADEGNA YEHONU MEHON ALEBACHEW. BEZA KALITESIMAMU, ZIM BILO EHADEGN LEMEXAL BICHA, YEMIDEREGU SIMIMINETOCHINA XIMIRETOCH MEHON YELEBACHEWUM. INA, YA NEW YIMESILEGNAL TIMIHIRITU.

KINFU-ON-LINE: YE KINIJIT INIQISIQASEWOCH BEMULU TAGIDEWAL. BE GEJIW SIRIAT, WEYIM BEGJIW PARTY SAYIHON, BERASU BE KINIJIT ABALAT. INA, YE POLETIKA STALEMATE ALE. AHUN INIDEMINAYEW, INDAYINIQESAQESU YETEDEREGU SEWOCH ALU. KEZAM ALIFEW, YE KINIJI TSIHIFET BET HULU INDAYIGEBU YETEKELEKELU SEWOCH INDALU NEW ZARE YESEMANEW. WANAW BALANIXA LAY MATEKORU QERITO, YERIS BERIS CHIGIRU SIRACHEWUN, GIZEACHEWUN HULU IZA LAY INDIYAWULU ADIRIGOACHEWAL, BE ETHIOPIA YALUTIN YE KINIJIT AMERAR ABALAT. INA, YIHENIN CHIGIR, BE IRISO AMELEKAKET, INDET NEW LIFETA YEMICHILEW? BE IRIQ HUNETAWUN INIFETAWALEN BILEW YETENESU SEWOCHIM ALU, IYESERUBET NEW WEY YALUT? BE IRISO AMELEKAKET, YIHE YASIKEDAL? WEYIS MINIDINEW MEFITIHEW BILEW NEW YEMIYAMINUT? ZARE XENIKER YALU QALATIN SINAGERU SEMITENIOTAL, GIN MEFITIHEW MINIDINEW BILEW YAMINALU? CHIGIROCHU KEYET INDETENESUM BINEGIRUN DES YILEGNAL. CHIGIRU, KE BIZU BOTA YEMINISEMAW, KE ISIR BET KEWEXACHIHU BEHUALA INDEHONE NEW. LELOCH DEGMO, KESIR BETIM WUSIXM JEMIRO YIHE CHIGIR INDALE YINAGERALU. SOSITEGNAW XIYAQE, KINIJIT BE ARATU DIRIJIT MEWAHAD MEFEXERUN REGRET YADERIGUTAL?

DR. BERHANU: KEHUALA LIJEMIR. REGRET TADERIGALEH WEY? I DON'T. REGRET ALADERIGIM. YIHE NEGER MEQUAQUAMU, BEMEQUAQUAMUM YEFEXEREW, HIZIBAWI INIQISIQASE, BAXEQALAY YE ETHIOPIAN DEMOCRACY TIGIL BEMIMELEKET, BIZU IRIMIJA WEDEFIT WESIDOTAL BIYE AMINALEHU. KENE DIKIMETUNA KENE CHIGIROCHU YA MEHONU, XIRU NEW BIYE AMINALEHU. THEREFORE, ISUN BEZA LICHERISEW. BEMEHAL LAY YEXEYEKEGN XIYAQE, MIN NEBER. ISTI WEDESU LIHIDIBETINA, INTIN LIBELEW. YIHE, BAXEQALAY YE KINIJIT INIQISIQASE AHUN YERIS BERIS INTIN HONOAL. INIQISIQASE BICHA IKO ADLELEM. YIH YERIS BERIS NITIRIK, SELEBA IYEHONE YALEW. INANTENIM QUCH BILACHIHU IYU. WUCH AGER YALE SEWUNIM IYU. YELET TEQEN WEREW, CHIQICHIQU, IKELE MIN ALE? IKELE MIN ALE HONOAL. YOU KNOW, INDEZIH IKO YEMIYAWARIDINA YEMIYASAFIR NEGER YELEM. YOU KNOW. COMPLETELY NEW DIRIJITUN PARALYZE YADEREGEW. COMPLETELY YE DIRIJITUN SIRET, DEMOCRACIYAWI INIQISIQASEWUN NEW PARALYZE YADEREGEW. THAT IS WHY, YIHE BALEBET HUNETA, QIDIM YAREKUTIN RADICAL YEHONE SOLUTION MASEB YALEBIN YALIKUT. WHICH IS, BEQA, YEQEREW YIQIR. DEMOCRASIYAWI IMINET LAY YETEMESERETU SEWOCH TIGILACHEWUN YIQEXILU. INDIYAWUM IRIQ KETEBALE IKO IRIQ YEMIMESILEGN, HULETUN SEBISIBO, BELU HULETACHIHUM BEYE MENIGEDACHIHU HIDU. GIN BILIGINAWUN AQUMU. YIHE MESADEB, YIHE MEWASHET, INDIYAW LERASACHIHUM SAYIHON LE POLETIKAWUM KIBIR AYIXEQIMIM. SHIMAGILOCH NACHIHU. TILALIQ SEWOCH NACHIHU. ISU ISUN TEWUT. TIGILACHIHUN QEXILU. INANTEM INAMINIBETALEN YEMITILUTIN, EHADEGIN LEMEXALIM YIHUN, EHADEGN KEXALACHIHU BEHUALA SILEMITAQUAQUMUT SIRIAT, MIN AYINET HIBIRETESEB INDEMITIFEXIRU IYASITEMARACHIHU, ZIM BILACHIHU QEXILU. LELAW BEZIHIGNAW SIDE YALEW, DEMOCRASIYAWI SIRIAT INDIGENEBA YEMIFELIGEW, LEZA YEQOMEW, LE DIRIJITAWI DEMOCRACY YEQOMEW, KEDIRIJIT HIG, METEDADERIA DENIB BELAY MANIM YEMIBELIX YELIM. MANIM. LIQE MENIBER ADLEM, MIKITIL LIQEMENIBER ADELEM, MANIM SEW YELEM. YE DIRIJIT HIG ISIKALITEKEBERE DIRES, YE DIRIJIT HIG YEMAYAKEBIR DEMOCRACY LINOR AYICHILIM. YEMIYAKEBIR BICHA NEW, BE AGER LAY YALEN DEMOCRACY HIGIN MAKIBER YEMICHILEW; BILO YETENIQESAQESEWUNA, YIHEN AQUAMUN ASIREGIXO YEKEFELEW HAIL ISUN YIZO, DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIAT LEMEGENIBAT YEMIDEREGEWUN, KESUM WUCHI YALUTIN ADADIS HAILOCH YIZO, WEDEFIT MEHED MEJEMER ALEBET. MENIQESAQES MEJEMER ALEBET. YIHIN LEMADIREG AHUN MEQOM YALEBET, LEMANIM SILEMAYIXEQIM INA, REALLY PURELY IDIOTIC SILEHONE NEW. IDIOTIC SILEHONE, YIHEN MESEDADEBUN, BILIGINAWUN AQUMU. SIRACHIHUN QEXILU. INANITEM HIDU, LELAWUM YIHID, YEMIL AYINET MASITAREQ NEW INJI, AHUN INEZIHIN HAILOCH INDEGENA AMIXITO, AND KINIJIT BILO LEMEHED, INE ZIM BIYE INDE BERIHANU SIGEMITEW, BEWUNET NEW YEMILEW TEFELAGIM AYIMESILEGNIM. I THINK INE MINIM INIDEMIXEQIM ALAWUQIM, IWUNETUN LEMENAGER. I DON'T THINK DEMOCRACIYAWI TIGILUN AND IRIMIJA WEDEFIT YEMIYASIKEDIM AYIMESILEGNIM. MAY BE WEDEFIT HULUM BEYEFINAW KEHEDE BEHUALA, SEKINO, YAQIXACHA LEWUTOCH MINAMIN TEDERIGEW, INIDEGENA TESEBISIBEN ININEGAGER, WEY YIMIBAL KEHONE, SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE, WHICH I DOUBT, YANE LIWERA YICHILAL. AHUN GIN, BENITIRIK YEMIXEFAW GIZE, BENITIRIK IYEXEFA YALEW YE HIZIB TIGIL INITIN, KEZIH BEMEHAL EHADEG IYAREGE YALEW SEBIAWI REGEXA YIHEN SEBIAWI REGEXA BEMENAGER QAL LEMETENIFES MINIM NEGER ANITENEFISIM BILEN BE OGADEN WEGENOCHACHIN RAPE SIDEREGU, SIREGEXU, INITIN SILU, AND QEN WETEN INQUAN ERE YIHE NEGER LIK ADELEM BILEN, MEQAWEM YEMANICHILIBETINA COMPLETELY AFACHIN YETEZEGABET HUNETA, BEFITSUM BEFITSUM INDIQEXIL ALLOWED MEHON YELEBETIM. LE DEMOCRACY QOMENAL YEMINIL HAILOCH, WE HAVE TO START THINKING FURTHER. WEDE FIT MEHED MECHAL ALEBIN. YIHE YIHE YEMAYIREBA TIGIL WUSX BEQA, MABIQAT ALEBET. WE JUST CANNOT GO ON LIKE THIS YEMILEW.

KINFU: CHICAGO RADIO LAY SINAGERU, MENIGIST IRASU LE SOSIT KEFAFILOACHIHU, RUMEROCHIN IYAWERA IRIS BERIS INDEMIYAGACHACHIHU, INA BLAMUN BEMULU MENIGIST LAY XILEWUT SILENEBERE, KEYET TENESA CHIGIRU YEMILEW NEBERE XIYAQEW. KEYETIM YINESA KEYET, MEFITIHEW LAY YEXEQESUT SILEHONE, BAYIMELISUTIM GID YELEM.

DR. BERHANU: AND NEGER MALET IFELIGALEHU. DIRIJIT TEKEFAFELE SIBAL, BIZU GIZE BAND DIRIJIT WUSX YALU SEWOCH, YETELEYAYE MESIMER YIZEW, YELEM YIHE MESIMER NEW YEMIYAWAXAW, YEMINAMINIBET TIGIL YIHE NEW BILEW, LELOCHU DEGMO, YELEM YIHE ADELEM MESIMERU, BEZIHIGNAW YISHALAL BILEW SIKEFAFELU, INDET DES YILAL. YOU KNOW, YE IMINET LIYUNET NEW. YASITESASEB LIYUNET NEW. YOU KNOW. AHUN IKO ANDIT NEGER SEMITACHIHU TAWUQALACHIHU, BEZIH HASAB INILEYAYALEN YEMIL?. NOT ONE IKO. AYIGERIMACHIHUM INDE? ARAT WERE IKO IMINIGESAGESEW, MINIM AND SUBSTANCE YALEW NEGER YELELEBET; AIRPORT ALITEQEBELUGNIM IKO NEW! IJIG IKO YEMIGERIM NEW IKO! YANDIN AGER DEMOCRACIYAWI GINIBATA BEMIMELEKET, BEMIDEREG, YANIN IMERALEHU BEMIL DIRIJIT WUSX, BEZIH ISSUE, WANAW ISSUE YIHE NEW MALETE ADELEM. BEHIND IT LELA NEGER LINOR YICHILAL. YALEW, FITLEFIT WEXITO, YIHE NEW YE IMINET LIYUNETACHIN. YIHE NEW. BEZIH MIKINIYAT YETELEYE AQIXACHA INIQERITSALEN BILU IKO, TEKEBABIREH IKO NEW YEMITILEYAYEW. SO, OK. YA MESIMER YAWAXAGNAL BILO HEDOAL, YIHID, TAKEBIREWALEH. MANIGNAW NEW TIKIKIL? WEDEFIT BEHIDET YEMILEYEW NEW. ISIKEZA GIN, ATLEAST YIHE IMINET ALEGN, BEZIH IMINET ILEYALEHU BILO YILEYAL. AHUN COMMUNICATION IKO BEXAM YEMIGERIM NEW IKO! INA LEZIH EW, TEKEFAFILEWAL SIBAL YEMAYIGEBAGN. LENE KINIJIT AND NEW. YIHE HIZB YETKEFELEW YE DEMOCRACY MENIFES AND NEW. BE ETHIOPIA WUSX, GILESEB MEBIT LAY MESERET YADEREGE, IWUNETEGNA YEBUDIN MEBITOCHIN YAKEBERE, DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIAT, BEHAGERACHIN YIQUM NEW. YA IMINET AND NEW. YAN IMINET YIZO, WEDEFIT MEGIFAT NEW. LELA MENIGED YELEM. THAT IS ALL.

HARERI: ETHNICITIN BETEMELEKETE YE KINIJIT AQUAM MINIDINEW? BE WOYANE BEKUL YEMISEXEW FIRACHA, KINIJIT YEMIMEREX KEHONE, YE BIHERE MEBITOCHIN YIQEMUHAL, YANTEN YEBIHER MEBITOCH YEMXEBIQILIH INE BICHA NEGN. BEZIH MELIKU YE KINIJIT ASAB MINIDINEW? BEZIH MELIKU WEDEFIT ETHIOPIA WUSX LEYET YALE LEWUX YEMIMEXA KEHONE, TILIQ AKERAKARI LEWUX LIHON YICHILAL.

DR. BERHANU: INE IMILIH, YIHE IKO BE FITSUM BE FITSUM BE ETHIOPIA POLETIKA WUSX MAKERAKER YELELEBET GUDAY NEW. FETSIMO LIYAKERAKIRIM AYIGEBAM. BECAUSE, MINIDINEW KINIJIT YEMIYAMINEW? KINIJIT IKO IYALE YALEW, DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIAT IMINIGENEBAW, YEGILESEBIN MEBIT YEMIYAKEBIR MESERET ADIRIGEN NEW. YEGILESEB MEBIT IS THE SMALLEST, BEMENESHAW. MINIDINACHEW INEGNIH MEBITOCH? YEMETSAF, YEMESEBISEB, YEMEDERAJET, TEDERAJITO HASAB MEGIFAT, WEZETE. INEGNIH NACHEW. YIHE DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIAT, YIHE DEMOCRACIYAWI MEBIT, BERHANU INEGNIH MEBITOCH ALUT WEY? BERHANU KE LELOCH SEWOCH GAR BEWENIDINETU, BE ECONOMISTINETU, BE HAIMANOTU, BEMINU, TESEBISIBO, TEDERAJITO, INEGNIHIN YEMIYAMINIBACHEWU NEGEROCH YEMEGIFAT MEBIT ALEW MALET NEW. MANIM SEW LIKELEKILEW AYICHILIM. INE POLETIKA BE ZER MEDERAJET NEW YEMIYAWAXAGN BILO KETENESA, INE ALISIMAM KESU GA, GIN ATICHILIM LILEW AYICHILIM. MEDERAJET MEBIT ALEH BILEHEWAL. MEDERAJET MALET KE LELOCH SEWOCH GAR HONO NEW. KE LELOCH SEWOCH GAR SIHON, BEZIH IDEOLOGY, BEZIH INTIN NEW LITILEW ATICHILIM. SO, YE BIHER BIHERESEBOCH MEBIT, WEYIM YE ETHNICITIN XIYAQE BEMIMELEKET YALEW XIYAQE, BIHEROCH, BIHERESEBOCH TEDERAJITEW, HASABACHEWUN YEMEGIFAT INTIN YEMADIREG, RESOURCE LEMEKAFEL, TEDERAJITEW MENIQESAQES YICHILALU WEY? LITIKELEKILACHEW ATICHILIM. YE GILE SEB MEBIT KAKEBERIK BEHUALA, LITIKELEKILACHEW ATICHILIM. YEMIYAGENAGNACHEW YE ECONOMY, YEMINAMIN XIQIMOCH ALU. YE MUYA XIQIMOCH ALU. BEZAM MELIK YEMIDERAJUBET HUNETA YIFEXERAL. POLETIKA DEGMO HASABU, BEGNA BENE IMINET, YE POLETIKA MESERET YEMIHONEW, AND SEW SAYIFELIG, BETEWELEDEBET ZER MIKINIYAT FELIGO YEMIMERIXEW SAYIHON, FELIGO, YETIGNAW YISHALEGNAL BILO MERIXO MEHON ALEBET BIYE AMINALEHU. EVENTUALLY, YIHE MESERETE HASAB SIR SIYIZ, EVENTUALLY, BE ZER YEMEDERAJET INA BE ZER LAY YETEMESERETE POLETIKA, YIKESIMAL BIYE AMINALEHU.

THEREFORE, AHUN LALENIBET TECHEBACH YE AGERACHIN HUNETA, SEWOCH ETHNICITIN MESERET ADIRIGACHIHUAL? THAT IS FINE. YIDERAJU. IGNA KEZA SEFA BALE, IDEOLOJIN MESERET YADEREGE DIRIJITACHIN YETESHALE NEW INILALEN. YETIGNAW YISHALEGNAL? YE ETHIOPIA HIZB HEDO YEMIMERIXEW NEW. IGNA INA INESU MESIMAMAT YALEBIN, DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIAT LAY INAMINALEN YEMILUT HAILOCH MESIMAMAT YALEBACHEW AND NEGER NEW. YA MINIDINEW? BE ZER YETEDERAJU, BE ZER YALITEDERAJU, HULUM LEMANIGNAW BOTA SIWEDADER, HASBUN YIZO ISIKEQEREBE DIRES, HIZB YEWESENEWUN YEMEQEBEL GIDETA ALEBET. IWUNET OROMIA LAY HEJE, TEWEDADIRE, LE HIZB ASITEMIRE, HIZB MIREXEGN OROMIAYAN LASITEDADIR BIYE IWEDADERALEHU KALEGN, MEBITIH NEW. KINIJIT DEGMO IZA HEDO, KE ONEG YILIQ INE ISHALIHALEHU BILO LEMEWEDADER ISKALIKELEKELIKEW DIRES, YA MEBITU KALITENEFEGEBET, WEYIM DEGIMO OROMIGNA KALITENAGERIK MEWEDADER ATICHILIM TEBILEH ISKALITEKELEKELIK DIRES, YANIN DEGIMO LITIKELEKILEW ATICHILIM, BECAUSE, YE OROMOWOCHUNIM MEBIT NEW YEMITIGEFEW ISUN SITADERIG, ISIKALGEFEFIK DIRES, YIHE MESERETAWI YE DEMOCRACY BILEN YASIQEMEXINACHEW NEGEROCH, HULUNIM AQIFO ASITEBABIRO YIZO MEHED YICHILAL. YEMINIFEXIREW SIRIAT, YANIN ALLLOW MADIREG YEMICHIL MEHON ALEBET. ETHIOPIA YE AND ETHNICITY NECH. HULACHINIM ABIREN LININORIBAT YEMINICHILEW, YEHULACHINIM MEBIT BEIKULINET SIXEBEQ NEW. YIHEN DEGMO MADIREG YEMINICHILEW, BEGILESEB DEREJA YALENIN MEBIT BEMEJEMERIA SINAKEBIR NEW. YE GILESEB MEBITIN YEMAYAKEBIR, YE BUDININ MEBIT AKEBIRALEHU BIL, WUSHETAM NEW YEMINILEW. YIHE WUSHETACHEWUN NEW. YE GILESEB MEBIT SAYAKEBIR YE BUDIN MEBIT LIYAKEBIR AYICHILIM. YIHE NEW AQUAMACHIN, YE KINIJIT AQUAM. YIHENIN NEW WEDEFIT YEMINIGEFAW. YIHE DEGMO IWUNETEGNA DEMOCRACY, IWUNETEGNA YEBIHEROCH IKULINET YEMIYAMEXALIN SIRIAT YIHE NEW.

SILEZIH WENIDIME LEXEYEQIHEW, YE KINIJIT IMINET, IWUNETEGNA YE BIHEROCHIN IKULINET MEFIQED YEMICHIL, BIHEROCHIN ADELEM, IYANDANDUM SEW IKUL NEW BILO YEMINESA SIRIAT AQUAM SILEHONE, YETESHALE IDIL ALEW. ABIREN LEMENOR BESELAM, ABIREN BE DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIAT LEMENOR YEMIYASICHILEN YETESHALE IDIL ALEW. INDE EHADEG, YE BIHEROCH MEGENIXEL MEBIT, OR SELF DETERMINATION ISIKE SECESSION IQEBELALEHU BILO SILACHIBEREBERE ADELEM YEBIHEROCHIN MEBIT YEMIYAKEBIREW. AHUN KAGEGNENEW TIMIHIRIT MADIREG YALEBIN, EHADEG YIHENIN LEMADIREG, BE SILIXAN LAY LEMEQOYET, MESARIA ALEGN BILO YEYAZEW AND NEGER NEW. YIHEM IGNAN IRIS BERIS MEKEFAFEL NEW. SO, BEYETIM BEKUL YALU HAILOCH, BE DEMOCRACY INIXEQEMALEN YEMILU MANACHEWUM HAILOCH, YIHENIN DEBA TEREDITEW, ABIREW LEZA LE DEMOCRACIYAWIW SIRIAT YEMITAGELUBETIN MENIGED MEFELEG ALEBACHEW. YA NEW TILIQU CHALLENGE. ABEQAHU.

MILACH: EHADEG WEDE ADDIS ABEBA INDIGEBA INA SILXAN INDIYIZ, BEQEXITEGNA DIGAF KESEXUT HAILOCH MEKAKEL ANDU, YE AMERICA STATE DEPARTMENT NEW. BEWEQITU NYENEBERUT SECRETARY COHEN, LE ATO MELES BE QEXITA BENEGERUACHEW MESERET, YAW, SOFT LANDING INISICACHEW BEMIL ASITESASEB NEBERE YE ETHIOPIAN MENIGIST INDIREKEBU YADEREGUT. INA KEZA GIZE JEMIRO ISIKAHUN DIRES BEMINAYIBET GIZE, STATE DEPARTMENT LE ATO MELES ASITEDADER MINIM AYINET NEQEFA INA LELOCH NEGEROCHIN SINAGER ANISEMAWUM. BETELEY DEGMO BALEFEW, 193 SEWOCH SIGEDELU, GILITS WUGIZET KEMENAGER, YE ADDIS ABEBA ASITEDADER RESTARAINTIN MEKETEL ALEBET, HULUM SEW MEREGAGAGT ALEBET YEMIL, LEZEBITEGNA AQUM NEBER YEYAZUT INA YENE XIYAQE MINIDINEW, IGNA IZIH YALENEW BAXEQALAY, WEYIM DEGMO BE DIASPORA LALENEW, LINEGIRUN YEMICHILUT NEGER MINIDINEW? LIMEKIRUN WEYIM DEGMO BE KINIJIT BAXEQALAY HUNETA LINIKETELEW IMIGEBA NEGER, STATE DEPARTMENT LAY MIN AYINET TETSIINO MASIKETEL ALEBIN? WEYIM DEGMO, BEMIN AYINET HUNETA NEW STATE DEPARTMENT, BE ATO MELES ASITEDADER LAY FITUN INDIYAZOR LEMADIREG YEMINICHILIBET NEGER MINIDINEW? WEYES WEDEFIT KEMIDEREGEW YE KINIJIT SIBISEBA YEMINIXEBIQEW NEGER YIHONAL?

DR. BERHANU: YEMEJEMERIYAW XIYAQE, I THINK YIHE BEXAM IMPORTANT XIYAQE NEW. YE AMERICANIM POLICY MIN BINADERIG NEW MASIQEYER IMINICHILEW YEMILEW NEW. BEZIH MELIK YE AMERICANIN MENIGIST POLICY MASIQEYER YEMINICHILEW BE HULET MENIGED NEW. ANIDEGNAW, TEXENAKIREN YIHENIN MENIGIST MEGIFAT SINICHILINA, YIHE MENIGIST, STABLE HONO MEQEXEL INDEMAYICHIL, YEBELEXE DEGMO AGERITUN WEDE YEBASE INSTABILITY INA CHAOS YEMIKET INDEHONE, MASAYET SINICHIL NEW. YEMEJEMERIYAW YIHE NEW. THEREFORE, BEWANANET, IGNA YEMINADERIGEW TIGIL WUXET NEW.

KEZAW GAR TEYAYIZO GIN, HULETEGNA, INDE AMERIC LALE MENIGIST, INDE AFRICA LALE DEHA AGEROCH LAY YEMIWESIDEW AQUAM, PRIMARILY, LE DEMOCRACY, LEMEBIT MINAMIN KEMIL MENESHA AYIDELEM. YE POWER BALANCE NEW. KEMAN GAR NEW MESIRAT YEMINICHILEW? MANEW BEZA BOTA LAY HONO, YE MENIGIST SIILIXAN YIZO, ALEN YEMINILACHEWUN XIQIMOCH LIYASIXEBIQ YEMICHILEW BILEW INTIN YEMIYADERIGUT. BENE IMINET, YAMERICA MENIGIST, YE MELES MENIGIST, BETELEY YIHE BEYEBOTAW IYEGEBABET YALEW TIRIMISINA AXABIQIGN, YEBELEXE UNSTABLE YEHONE HUNETA LIFEXIR INIDEMICHIL, YIHEM BAKABABIW ADEGEGNA LIHON INDEMICHIL, IMIREDU YIMESILEGNAL. IWUNET LEMENAGER, BENE .

I THINK, KENESU YEMIXEBIQUT MINIDINEW AMARACHU? MIN AMARACH ALE LE AFRICA QENID? BEWUNET YACHIN AGER, ASITEBABIRO, STABILIZE ADIRIGO, WEDEFIT MEWUSED YEMICHIL YE POLETIKA HAIL WEYIM HAILOCH ALU WEY, YEMILEW XIYAQE NEW. YIHENIN DEGMO MASAYET, ETHIOPIA WUSX YALU YE POLETIKA HAILOCH, YE ETHIOPIA YE WEDEFIT IXA, YANID DIRIJIT WUSANE AYIDELEM. ETHIOPIA WEDEFIT, BEBIZU DIRIJITOCH TEBABIRO MESIRATINA, ABIRO BE DEMOCRACY MEQOM YEMIWESEN NEW. YANIN LEMADIREG, INIDEZIH BEYEMINAMINU IRIS BERISACHIN IYETENAQORIN, AND DEHINA DIRIJIT WEXA SIBAL, KEWUSXU ANDU IYEWEXA IYEKOREKOMEWUNA IYADEMAW, ANDU KELELAW DIRIJIT GAR, KE EHADEG GAR KEMIYAXEFAW GIZE BELAY, IRIS BERIS BEMENAQOR IYAXEFA, HAIL ALE, YIHENIN FORCE LITEKA YEMICHIL HAIL ALE, KEZA HAIL GAR ABIREN INISIRA YILALU BIYE ALAMINIM.

LEZIH NEW INGNA YEBET SIRACHININ MESIRAT ALEBIN BIYE YEMAIM. YEBET SIRACHININ MESIRAT YALEBIN BEHULET MENIGED NEW. ANDEGNA, TEBABIREN YIHEN MENIGIST BEXAM MEGIFAT MECHAL ALEBIN. HULETEGNA, BEMETEBABER, LE MELES AMARACH MEHONACHININ MASAYET ALEBIN. INEGNIHIN LINAREG SINICHIL NEW YANIN FORCE LINIQEYIR YEMINICHILEW.

BALIWE: METSIHAFIH, BEFIT YALAKATETACHEWUN GUDAYOCH AKATO, QEXAY KIFIL YINOREWAL WEY? BEXAM YEMIYANADIDEGN AND NEGER ALE. AND FOTO, KE TAMIRAT LAYNE INA KE MELES ZENAWI GAR YETENESAHEW FOTO ALE. YANIN FOTO IYEYAZU, TERA YESIM MAXFAT ZEMECHA, BETELEY BE AGER BET NEW INDIH AYINETUN NEGER YEMIYADERIGUT, FOTOWUN ABAZITEW, YIHEW KENESU GAR IYETENESA, KENESU GAR IYETESASAQE, MINUN KINIJIT NEW, MINU TIGILU LAY NEW YALEW IYALU, YEWAHOCHIN YASASITALU. YIHE NEXIB YALEW NEGER ADELEM, GIN BE POLETIKA BISILETACHEWUNA, INDIYAW TRADITIONAL YEHONU SEWOCH BEINDEZIH AYINET NEGER BEQELALU LITALELU YICHILALU. INA, INDIH AYINET SIRAWOCHIN YEMISERU SEWOCH ALU, BEXAM YEMIYASAZIN NEW. INA IZA LAY INDAW SILE FOTOW TINISH YEMITINEGIREN NEGER KALE.

DR. BERHANU: FOTEGRAPH MENESAT IWEDALEHU KEMANIM SEW GAR. ANITENIM BAGEGNIH INESALEHU. SO, NEGE ISUN YIZEW MIN INDEMIYADERIGU ALAWUQIM. YIHE AHUN YETEJEMERE IKO NEW. INE YIHEN YEMIYADERIGU SEWOCH, POLETIKA AWERAN BILEW YAMINALU, WEYINIS, INE IKO YEDINIQURINAW QIX MAXAT NEW INEN BEXAM YEMIGERIMEGN.

LOS ANGELES LESIBISEBA SIHED, YE KINIJIT DELEGATION, INE INQUAN ALAWUQACHEWUM, MOGES YEMIBALU AZAWUNIT, IYEZORU YILEXIFU NEBER ALU, INE KE MELES INA KE TAMRAT GAR YTENESAHUTIN FOTO. INA YANIN SILU INGIDEIH BEBETACHEW, YIHEW WOYANE NEW AYACHIHUT AYDELEM WEY FOTEGRAFUN, LILU NEW YEFELEGUT. I AM SURE, YE ETHIOPIAYAN HUNETA YEMIYAWUQ SEW, IT IS AS GOOD AS PRESENTING ANY FOTOGRAPH, WEDE HUALA MELISO AND SEW, ATO HAILUN KE MENIGISTU HAILEMARIAM GAR FOTEGRAPH LAY BIYAYACHEW, YIHEW DERG NACHEW; YAW ISACHEW INQUAN TINISH SERITEWAL, AT LEAST. DURO YETEMARU NACHEW INA, THEREFORE, EHADEG YEMIYADERIGEW AYINET CHIQA MEQEBAT, RATHER THAN ATO HAILU YEMIYAMINUBETIN AQUM MINIDINEW KEMILEW KEMAYET YILIQ, BEZA YE POLETIKA NEXIB YAGEGNEN YIMESIL AYINET INQISIQASE AYINET. INE INDIH AYINET TERA POLETIKA, INE BEWUNET IMAATSEYIF NEW.

INE BE 1991 AMET MIHIRET, ETHIOPIA TEMELISHE HEJE NEBER. BENEBEREBET GIZE, BEZA GIZE, TIZ YILACHIHU INDEHONE, SHIGIGIR MENIGIST TEBILO, CONFERENCE YIKAHED NEBER. IN FACT, INE YEHEDIKUT, KABATE GAR WEDE ADDIS ABEBA SIMELES AIRPORT LAY, YELEM TAZEB YIHEN WUYIYIT. YE SHIGIGIRU MENIGIST YEMIYADERIGEWUN WUYIYIT TAZEB YEMIL, KE AIRPORT INDIYAWUM ANASIGEBA BILEWUGN, AND HULET SEAT KEQOMIKU BEHUALA, YIZEWUGN WEDEZA HEDIKU. SIBISEBAWUN, YAW ANIWEXAM NEBER. SEQUESTERED HONEN NEBER. KEZA IYEWEXAN SIBISEBA INIHED NEBER. SIDIST QEN SEBAT QEN YANIN SIBISEBA KEQOYEN BEHUALA, YEMECHERESHAW QEN, INDEZAW TESEBISABIW BEXEQILALA GIBIJA NEBER. IZA SIBISEBA LAY, YETENESA FOTEGRAPH, MOHAMMED YEMIBAL KEZIH YEHEDE LIJ YANESAW YIMESILEGNAL INE SIGEMITEW.

ALAWUQEWUM. BEZA GIZE BEXAM REALLY, INEN LE GURA ADELEM, MECHERESHAW LAY, IN FACT SIBISEBAW SIYALIQ, NIGIGIR ADIRIGU IYALU SIGABIZU, PROF EPHREM TIZ YILACHIHU INDEHON AND NIGIGIR YADEREGUT ISACHEW NEBERU. KEZA BEFIT BERHANU G, KIRISTOS YEMIBALEW AMBASSDOR YIMEXANA, MEZIGIYAW LAY NIGIGIR ARIG YILEGNAL. AY ACHIR NIGIGIR ARIG KALIKEGN AREGALEHU, GIN YEMILEWUN LINIGERIH. BE ERITREA LAY YEWESEDACHIHUT AQUAM TIKIKIL NEW BIYE ALAMINIM. YIHENIN BEFILEFIT, LE HIBIRETESEBU INAGERALEHU. LIVE YEMITELALEF KEHONE. YIHEN LEMIN INDEMALAMINIBET AND HULET BIYE, IN FACT WANAW CENTRAL ARGUMENTE YENEBEREW, YE ETHIOPIA HIZB YE ERITREA MEGENIXEL AYAGEBAWUM, YEMIL AQUAM LIYAZ AYICHILIM. YE ETHIOPIA HIZB YAGEBAWAL. SO, WEDE ETHIOPIA YEMIMELESIBET MENIGED MEFELEG ALEBET. YALEBELEZA, YANIN IRIMIJA MEWUSEDU TIKIKIL AYDELEM YEMIL , YIHENIN AQUAMEN FIT LE FIT INAGERALEHU. BEFORE THEN, YEMITIQEBELU KEHONE BEDESITA NEW IMNAGEREW ALIKUT. YELE IGIZIABIHER YISIXIH, YIQIRIBIN BILO, LELOCHUN ANAGERUNA TELEYAYEN.

YA NEW CONTEXTU, YEZA PHOTOGRAPH. GIN KEZA ILEFINA IYEW. ISHI PHOTOGRAPH TENESITENAL. LET SEE, BEZIH GIZE, EHADEG XIRU NEW BIYE ASIBALEHU. BENEGERACHIN LAY, EHADEGIN BEMIMELEKET YALEGNIN HASAB BETSIHUF GELICHALEHU. XINITAWI YEMIBAL METSIHET LAY, HULET SOSIT GIZE, BE ECONOMY POLICIW, BE POLETIKAW, COMMENT AQIRIBEALEHU, BEZA GIZE. GIN INIBEL DEGEFIKU. KEZA BEHUALA AY, AYEHUNA, AY YIHE MENIGIST YEMIREBA AYDELEM, BIYE HASABEN QEYERIKUGN INIBEL. INA, YANE YIHEN KALIK, KEZA BEHUALA HASABIHIN BITIQEYIRIM, WEYINIM TIKIKIL ADELEM BILEH BITAMINIM, KAYEH BEHUALA HASABIHIN MEQEYER TIKIKIL ADLELEM INA, BEZIH MIKINIYAT WOYANE NEH NEW?

MINIDINEW IYETEBALE YALEW? YESEWOCHIN NIQET NEW IKO YEMIYASAYEW. NIQET IMILEW HIZBUN INDET INDEMINIQUT NEW. AHUN YIHEN NEGER BEMASAYET, HIZBU BERHANU EHADEG NEW BILO YIQEBELEWAL YEMIL, SEWUN ABSOLUTLEY LIK INDENESU DENIQORO ADIRIGO YEMIWESID, KEFITEGNA NIQETINA TIIBIT YALEW IKO ABABAL NEW.

INA WEGENOCHE, LE INDIH AYINET TERA WERE, REALLY, DEGMO SEMITACHIHUTAL, AND NEW DEGMO AKIYAHEDU. BE ANDARGACHEW LAY YIBABLAL ANDE, BE BERHANE LAY YIBALAL, BICHA WHOEVER. INESU IMAYIWEDUT SIHON YIDEREGAL. GIN ANDACHININIM SEMATCHIHUN ATAQUM. INEZIH SEWOCH INDEZI NEBERU, INDEZIH NEBERU, BETARIKACHEW INDEZIH NEBERU BILEN TENAGIREN ANAQIM. AND SEW YEMILEKAW AHUN BALEW AQUAMU NEW. TARIKU MIGHT BE A REFLECTION OF THE WAY THE PERSON WAS. HULETEGNAW XIYAQE MIN NEBER?

QUESTION: SILE METSIHAFU QEXAY KIFIL ALEW WEY? AHUN YALEWUN HUNETANA KE QOMEBET JEMIRO WEDE FIT YIQEXILAL WEY? KE KINIJIT BEFIT YALEWUN BALEMAKATETU BEZAM BEKUL YITECHAL. BETELEY DIRIJITOCHU BEGILACHEW YADEREGITUN MENIQESAQESINA KIDIME KINIJIT TIGIL, BIZU SILALAKATETE, ADISU SIRA YIHEN YAKATITAL WEY?

DR, BERHANU: YEZIH AMELEKAKET YEMIGERIMEWN NEGER LINIGERIH. INDEW QUCH BILACHIHU ASIBUT. KEZA BEFIT, INE MEAD, INE EUDPA-MEDHIN WEYIM LELOCHU YADEREGUTIN ASITEWATSIO ALAKATETEM. OFCOURSE ALAKATETEM. IMALAQEWUN INDITSIF NEW YEMIFELIGUT? METSIHAF INDET INDEMITSAF YAWUQALU INDE? METSIHAF IKO YEMITSAFEW, ANDE SEW SIYAWUQEW NEW YEMITSIFEWUN. YAMAYAWUQEWUN NEGER IKO AYITSIFIM. YE MEAD TARIK YE EDEPAN TARIK ALITSIFIM. INESU CHILOTAW ALEN KALU YITSAFU. BENESU SINIFINA LEMINIDINEW INE TEXEYAQI YEMIHONEW?

BEHULETEGNA DEREJA LANESAHEW, INE AHUNIM BITSIF, YANIN LAKATIT ALICHILIM. AHUNIM ALAWUQEWUM. RESEARCH ADIRIGE, SEFI XINAT ADIRIGE, BIZU GIZE AXIFICHE BEYE LIBRARIW, SEWOCH INTERVIEW ADIRIGE, LITSAF BIL LITSIFEW ICHIL YIHONAL. MANIGNAWUM SCHOLAR INDEMIYADERIGEW.

BUT THAT IS NOT MY INTEREST. INE AHUN METSAF YEMIFELIGEW, YEJEMERIKUTIN NEW. ISIR BET YEMEJEMERIYAWUN METSIHAF KECHERESIKU BEHUALA, INFACT AND YEJEMERINEW, KELELA ABIROGN KETASERE SEW GAR YEJEMERINEW AND INTIN NEBER. HIGINA POLETIKA BE ETHIOPIA, YEMIL . ACTUALLY MADIREG YEFELEGINEW, BEXAM UNIQUE NEW. BE ETHIOPIA TARIK, INDE EHADEG, HIGIN MAXIQIYA MESARIA ADIRIGO YETEXEQEME YELEM. HIG IS AN INSTRUMENT FOR OPPRESSION, RATHER THAN SEWOCH FITIHIN YEMIFELIGUBET MESARIA MEHONU QERITO, DENIBEGNA YEMAXIQIYA MESARIA ADIRIGO YETEXEQEMEBET MENIGIST INDE EHADEG YELEM.

INA, YIHININ TINISH EXPLORE MADIREG FELIGEN NEBER. INA, TECHEBACH MIKINIYATOCH, CASOCH, INFACT AND AMIST KEZOCH MERIXEN, INEGNAN CASOCH, YENE SEYEN CASE YIMELEKETAL, YE MECHANA TULEMA CASE, LELOCH YE ONEG CASOCH ALU. YENE PROF ASRAT CASE. INIDEZIH AND AMIST SIDIST CASOCH WESIDO, BENEGAN CASOCH LAY YIHENIN THESIS, WHICH IS, YIHE YETEQEYEREW ALEM, KE SOSITEGNAW ALEM AMBA GENENOCH, INDEBEFITU ZIM BILO AYIN YAWEXA INTIN KEMADIREG, HIGIN KELELA ADIRIGO MEXEQEM KE MEERABU ALEM DIGAF YASIGEGNILINAL BILEW SILEMIYASIBU, YIHE LEGAL COVER, LEMIWESIDUT YESEBIAWI MEBIT REGEXANA CHIFICHEFA, LEGAL COVER, HIGAWI KELELA LEMESIXET YEMIYADERIGUTIN HUNETA LEMAGALEX, AND ONE POINT YEMIBAL ALE.

DURO COUP D'ETAT YEMIDEREGEW BE MILITARY HAIL NEBER, BAHUN GIZE BE AFRICA COUP D'ETAT BE MIRICHA COMMISSIONOCHINA BE MIRICHA BOARDOCH IYEHONE NEW. YIHE YETEFEXEREW YE ADDISU ALEM HUNETA YEFEXEREW NEGER NEW. INA YIHEN EXPLORE LEMADIREG NEW INTERESTE. BEZIH BE HULETEGNA METSIHAF. ISUN LEMETSAF NEW ANDUM YETEWESENE GIZE MAGINGETU DES YALEGN; IZA LAY PERSUE LADERIGEW SILEFELEKU NEW. YIHE ISIR BET HONEN YEJEMERINEW NEGER, IN FACT BASITAWUS, ISIKE 150 GETS IMIHON IZA TSIFEN NEBER BE AMARIGNA. GIN KEZA SINIFETA, INESUM MATERIALUN WESEDUBIN. BEQA ISUN RECONSTRUCT LEMADIREG NEW WANAW ALAMAYE. INJI, YE MEADINA MINAMIN LEMETSAF HASAB YELEGNIM.

BALIWE: AHUN KINIJITU YEDERESEBET ADEGA INIDEMIMESILEGN, MANIFESTOWUN BETEGIBAR INAWUL WEYIS ANAWULIM YEMIL YE HULET GROUP LIYUNET NEW YEMITAYEGN. IRIGIX KINIJIT BE KINIJITINETU KETEDERAJE BEHUALA, ISIR BET ISIKEGEBA DIRES, AFAXAGN INIQISIQASE NEBER YEMIYADERIGEW. KEZA BEHUALA METEYAYET ALITECHALEM NEBER. NEGER GIN YE HAYA WERATOCH YE ISIR BET ZEMEN NEBERACHIHU. BEZA SEAT TSERE DEMOCRAT AQUAM YALACHEWUN SEWOCH LEYITACHIHU, LELAW BIQER, INDET AQUAM LITIWESIDU ALITEZEGAJACHIHUM? YE ETHIOPIA HIZBS ZARE INDET ADIRIGO YIXEBIQEGNAL BILEW YASIBALU, AGER BET SIGEBU?

DR. BERHANU: ISIR BET MINIDINEW AQUAM YEMIWESEDEW? ANIDEGNA TAWIQUTALACHIHU YE ISIR BET HUNETA, YETELEYAYE ZONE NEW YALENEW. BETELEYAYU ZONOCH LAY WUYIYIT INADERIG NEBER. BIZU SEW, AHUN YALEW KIFIFIL, BE QEXITA ISIR BET ALREADY YENEBERE KIFIFIL, WEYIM AHUN BETELEYAYE FERIJ YEQOMUT SEWOCH, BE ISIR BETIM INDEZA YETELEYE FERIJ YIZEW YEQOMU YEMIMESILACHIHU KEHONE, TESASITACHIHUAL. BEWUNET LEMENAGER. ISIR BET WUSX, BETELEY ANDAND ZONOCH WUSX, BIZU WUYIYITOCH YIKAHEDU NEBER. SILE DEMOCRACY, SILE WEDEFIT TIGIL MIN AQIXACHA MEKETEL INDALEBIN; KALEFUT SIHITETOCH MIN INIMARALEN? BEYE GROUP BEYE GROUPU WUYIYITOCH YIKAHEDU NEBER. IGNIH AHUN YEMITAYUACHEW ANDAND SEWOCH, AT LEAST INE ZONE BENEBERIKUBET GIZE, KENEBERUT WUSIX, BEWUNET NEW YEMILACHIHU, KE ISIR BET ISIKEMINIWEXA DIRES, BE BIZU XIYAQEWOCH LAY TEWEYAYITEN, TEMAMINEN, AND AYINET AQUAM YIZENAL YEMINILACHEW SEWOCH NEBERU.

SIWEXA, YE DIRIJIT LOYALITY OR WHATEVER IT IS, LOYALITY LEMAN INDEHONEM, LOYALITY LEMIN INDEHONEM ALAWUQIM. ANDANIDOCHU BEXAM INIDEZA SINAGERU SAY BEQA IMAFIREW, IMAZINEW, LEZIH IKO NEW. ISIR BET WUSX YENEBERACHEWUN AQUAM AWUQALEHU, DEMOCRACY LAY YALACHEWUN IMINET AWUQALEHU. YE DIRIJIT IMINET INDET MEKEBER IDALEBET INDEMILU AWUQALEHU. YIHEN SILU YEQOYU SEWOCH ZARE, YIHE HULU MATTER AYADERIGIM. MATTER YEMIYADERIGEW KE QORAXU MERIACHIN GA WEDEFIT NEW AYINET NEGER; YIHEMA BEXAM BEXAM YASIDENEGIXEGNAL. INA, INDEZA ALINEBEREM. SO INIDEZA SILALINEBEREM ANTE BEMITILEW AYINET, ISIR BET LIKAHED AYICHILIM NEBER.

CHIGIROCHUM CHIGIR HONO YEMEXAW, MANIFEST YADEREGEW WEDE MECHERESHA LAY NEW. INDEMITAWIQUT, ATO HAILU, BEGILU, BERASU WUSANE TIGIL BEMIMESERIT GIZE, AHUN KIC ALE BILEW YEMILU SEWOCH, BEWUSXU MAMEN BEMAXIRATU MELIK, KELELOCHACHIN GAR HONEW BEXAM SIQAWEMU YENEBERU SEWOCH NACHEW. YOU KNOW, YE KIC LIQEMENIBERINET FITSUM SIYAWEGIZU KENEBERUT SEWOCH MEHAKEL INE ABAYINEH NACHEW. YOU KNOW, AHUN INDET TEMELISEW, KIC ALE, TEFEXIROAL, WEDEFIT HEDOAL. INE IKO SEWU, IT IS AMAZING BICHA. YOU KNOW, KE ISIR BET SINIWEXA, YIHE KIC'M KIL'M YIFIRES YEMILEWUN WUSANE YEWESENINEW IKO, BETEWESENE DEREJA, ATO HAILU EMBARRASSED INDAYIHON BILEN NEW. YEWESENEW WUSANE TIKIKIL ALEMEHONUN HULUM SEW SILEMIYAMIN, AHUN YANIN NEGER INIDEGENA SIBISEBA LAY AMIXITEN BININEGAGER, YEBELEXE UNNECESSARY YEHONE NEGER YIFEXIRALINA, YOU KNOW, BAND LAY WEDEFIT INDINIHED, YIHE HULETUM MAHIBER BE ADDIS MELIK YIDERAJ, YA ISSUE AYINESA BILEN, INEZIH SEWOCH, AHUN KIC ALIFERESEM BILEW YINAGERALU YEMIBALUT SEWOCH, INDEMEFITIHE INIDIYAWUM, YAGNAWUN YE ATO HAILUN WUSANE EMBARRASS LALEMADIREG INDE MEFITIHE TEBILO, YETEDEREGE COMPROMISE NEW. INEZIH SEWOCH NACHEW AHUN, METEW KIC ALIFERESEM, IDEZIH QOMOAL.

INIDET IKO, ASAFARI NEGER INIDEHONE; INE YESEW LIJ XEBAY INDET INDEZIH LIHON INIDEMICHL MAMEN IKO YEMIYAQIT NEGER NEW.

AGER SIGEBA SILEMIDEREGEW AQEBABEL: AQEBABEL IKO KEMAN INIDEHONEM MAWEQ YASIFELIGAL. BEXIRU IMIQEBELUGN ALU, BE XIRU IMAYIQEBELUGN ALU. SO, THAT IS LIFE.

AND LENATU (ZEGINET): YE NETSANET GOY SIQED BETEBALEW METSIHAF LAY INDANEBEBINEW, KINIJITUN WEDE ANDINET LEMAMIXAT CHIGIR INDENEBERE ANIBIBENAL. AHUN KETEFEXEREW CHIGIR GAR INDET YITAYAL? KE ARAT WER BEHUALA WEDE ETHIOPIA TEMELISEH, YAQEXAXELACHIHUTIN YE DEMOCARCY FANO KE TIGIL AGAROCHIHINA KE ETHIOPIA HIZB GAR HONEH, DAR TADERISEWALEH, WEYIS INDEMIWERAW BEZIHU TIQERALEH?

DR. BERHANU: INDEMIWERAW BEZAW TIQERALEH? ARATUN WER NEW WEYIS KEZA BELAY NEW? INE ISIKEMAWUQEW DIRES, YIHEN ARAT WER CHERISHE, BEDENIB ASIBE, TIGILU WEDET MEHED INDALEBET QIDIM INDALIKUT AWUXICHE AWURIJE, HOPEFULLY GILTS YEHONE MESIMEROCH YIJE, KE GUADEGNOCHE GAR TENEGAGIRENIBET, YIHEN TIGIL LEMEQEXELIMA, MINIM XIYAQE AYINURIH. BENE BEKUL YIHE TIGIL MEQEXEL INDALEBET, INDEW QINIXAT TAKIL DOUBT AYINURIH. INEGNIHIN YIHEN AGER WEDE AZEQIT IYEWESEDU YALU, FITSUM E-DEMOCRATICAWI YEHONU, HULUM AYINET HAILOCHIN METAGEL, YEZEGINET BICHA AYDELEM. INDE SEW LIJ, BEINDIH AYINET BILIGINA SIRIAT YANIN METAGEL BESEWUNETACHINIM GIDETA ALEBIN BIYE NEW YEMASIBEW.

INE BETEDEGAGAMI BIZU GIZE BIYALEHU. INE LEMANIN BIYE IYETAGELIKU ADELEHUM. INE LE ETHIOPIA HIZB NETSA LEMAWUXAT, YEMIL MINAMIN AYIDELEM. INE LERASE NEW. INE I WANT BE NETSANET MENOR IFELIGALEHU. LEZA NETSANET, MADIREG YALEBIGNIN ITAGELALEHU. ZIM BIYE ALIREGEXIM. ZIM BIYE, INDIH AYINET IMIKEREFA AYINET, XIGABEGNA INA TIIBITEGAN MENIGIST INDEFELEGE INDIYAREG ZIM BIYE ALIQEMEXIM. I WILL DO WHATEVER IT IS THAT I CAN AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. SO, BEZA LAY XIYAQEM AYINURIH. DEMO LEMANIM QAL MEGIBAT YELEBIGNIM. INE LERASE YEMIGEBAW QAL NEW. LE LELA SEW YEMIGEBAW QAL ADELEM.

NOW, METSAF BEMIMELEKET LEXEYEKEGN; KINIJITIN AND YEMADIREG INIQISIQASE LAY BIZU CHIGIR GEXIMOT NEBER. MINIM XIYAQE YELEWUM. BE GILITS IZA METSIHAF LAY ASIQEMICHEWALEHU. INIDEMIGEBAGN ADIRIGE NEW YASIQEMEXIKUACHEW. SO, YANIN KANEBEBACHIHU, MIN AYINET CHIGIROCH INIDENEBERU MAYET TICHILALACHIHU. AHUN YEMINAYEW CHIGIR BETEWESENE DEREJA, KEZA BEFIT YENEBEREW REFLECTION NEW WEY?

BEXAM YIQERAREBAL, MINIM XIYAQE YELEWUM. BEXAM BIZU TEMESESAY EGEROCH ALUT. HULETUM MESERETACHEW, KE DEMOCRACY YILIQ YE DIRIJIT XIQIM, KE DEMOCRACY YILIQ, BE DIRIJIT WUSIX YEMIGEGN YEBELAYINET, WANA INITIN ADIRIGEW SILETENESU NEBER YA HULU CHIQICHIQ YENEBEREW. INE TILIQ NEGN, INE IBELIXALEHU. INEZIHIN NEGEROCH AHUNIM INISEMACHEWALEN. IGNA TILIQ NEN, IGNA BIZUWUN NEGER YADERAJENEW IGNA NEN, JINI MINAMIN. ESSENTIALLY TEMESASAY, INHERENTLY AND DEEPLY UNDEMOCRATIC YEHONU INTINOCH NACHEW. AHUNIM YEHONE YALEW ISU NEW.

GIBREGEB: BE ETHIOPIA WUSIC AHUN YALEW HUNETA, KINIJIT INDELIB TENIQESAQISO, IDEOLOGIWUN LEMESIBEKIM HONE, ABALATUN MELIMILO LEMANIQAT YEMIYASICHIL AYIDELEM. NEGER GIN BE DIASPORA YALEWUN ZEGA, ATLEAST, BE KINIJIT IDEOLOGY LEMEQIRETSINA BE ABALINET MELIMILO WEDE ACTION LEMASEMARAT, MIN GILITS YEHONE ADEREJAJET TEMESIRITOAL?

DR BERHANU: QIDIM JEMIRO YIHE IZIH TEQOYITO MIN YIDEREGAL YEMILEWUN NEGER SITIXEYIQU, LEMEMELES YEMOKERIKUT, INDE BERHANU, INEGNIH HULU XIYAQEWOCH NACHEW BEDENIB METASEBINA GILITS AQIXACHA MEQEYES ALEBACHEW BIYE YEMASIBEW. INE ICHIN AGAXAMI TEXEQIME, ISUN ILIBAT ADERIGALEHU BIYE AMINALEHU. GUADEGNOCHEM ADDIS ABEBA YALUTIM, WUCHI BICHA SAYIHON, ADDIS ABEBAM, AFENA YAREGALINA, YANIN QEDADA IYEFELEGU INIQISIQASE YIQOMAL MALET AYDELEM. INDET BINAREG NEW YIHENIN LEMADIREG YEMINICHILEW BEMIL HASABINA WUYIYIT YADERIGALU BIYE TESFA ADERIGALEHU. INA, I THINK KINIJITU, BEYEGIZEW, INEZIHIN NEGEROCH CLEAR YEMIYADERIG YIMESILEGNAL.

MUMCA: KINIJIT SIMU ALE. YIHENIN YE KINIJIT SIM, MECHES WOYANEM YIWEDEWAL. BE KINIJIT SIM LAY BIZUOCH SEWOCH TENESITEWAL. BIZOCH NEGEROCH IYETEDEREG NEW. KE WOYANEM CHIMIR. KINIJIT SIMU YILEWEXAL, WEYIM BINILEWUXEWUM GID YELEM YEMIL KE KINIJIT MERIWOCHIM YISEMALINA, YE KINIJIT SIM IRASU TILIQ HAIL YALEW NEWUNA, DINIGET ANTE BEZIH AKIYAHED BE INTERVIEW SITIXEYEQ YEMELESIKEW MELIS NEBER. YAW BEGARA ABIRO YEMEHED HUNETA ALE. NEGER GIN, TECHACHILO MESIRATIN NEW YASEFERIKIBET. DINIGET AND NEGER BIMEXA, YIHE YE KINIJIT SIM ABIRO YIHEDAL WEY? WEYIS BILEWEX IMIYAMEXAW NEGER ALE WEY.

DR. BERHANU: I THINK KIDIM CLEAR INDAREKUT, KEZIH BEFITIM BETELEYAYU NIGIGIROCHE CLEAR INDAREKUT, LENE KINIJIT SIMU ADLEM. LENE KINIJIT IMINETU NEW, LENE KINIJT IDEAW NEW. LENE KINIJIT LEQOMEBET AMELEKAKET YALEW TSINAT NEW. YE ETHIOPIA HIZB KINIJITIN YETEKETELEW BEZA MIKINIYAT NEW. YE ETHIOPIA HIZB KINIJITIN YETEKETELEW LE AND AFITAM SIMUN BILO ADELEM. GEZA YEBELEXE YETESHALU YEMIYAMAMIRU SIMOCH SAYINORU QERITO ADELEM, BE SIM BIHON NORO. KINIJIT BEFISTUM, YE KINIJIT SEWOCH, YIHE ATLEAST INE IMILACHEW, YENE GUADEGNOCH, BETSINATE LE DEMOCRACY MEQOMACHEWUN QINIXAT TAKIL IMALIXERAXERIM LIJOCH; INESU, BE KINIJIT AKABABI LEZIH AMERAR YE QOMU MEHONACHEW GILITS YEHONE, HIBIRETE SEBU YEMIYAWUQACHEW, HIBIRETESEBU BEZIHIM AQUAMACHEW YEMIYAKEBIRACHEW SEWOCH, YANIN INQISIQASE REPRESENT ISIKADEREGUT DIRES, KINIJIT MEBAL ALEMEBALU, GIZEAWI YEHONE CONFUSION YIFEXIR INDEHON NEW INJI, BEFITSUM ZELAQI YEHONE, POLETIKAWI INIZIRIT ALEW BIYE ALAMINIM. YIHEMA KALEW, LE EHADEG TILIQ GULIBET IYESEXENEW NEW.

TILIQ POWER IYESEXENEW NEW.

BAHUNU GIZE, YEDIRIJIT SIM MIN, MAN MEHON INIDALEBET YEMIWESINEW IKO EHADEG NEW. KINIJIT YAYELE CHAMISO NEW IKO IYALE NEW. AND BEFELEGEW GIZE, KINIJITIN LE AYELE CHAMISO LISEXEW YICHILAL, LEFELEGEW LISEXEW YICHILAL. INDIH AYINET AYINAWUXA MINIM NEQEF YELELEW MENIGIST NEW YALEW. SO EHADEG KINIJITIN LE AYELE CHAMISO SEXENA, YIQOMAL LELAW TIGIL? ISUN LEMASIMELES BILEN? WEYINIS IMINETACHININ YIZEN, BEZA IMINET SIM SEXTEN, MENIQESAQES NEW? YANIN IMINET MEGIFAT ALEBIN.

IZIH YALACHIHU SEWOCH IKO BE QELALU LITIREDUT YEMITICHILU YIMESILEGNAL. YE ISRAEL LIKUD PARTY WUSIX CHIGIR BETEFEXERE GIZE, TIZ YILACHIHU INDEHON, YE LIKUDIN SIM YIZO MEHED, KAHUN BEHUALA LEMIRICHA NEW YEMIXEQIMEW ADELEM? TEGENIXILEN INIWEXALEN BILEW INE SHARON, ADDIS PARTY FEXERU. HULET SAMAINIT WEYIM SOSIT SAMINT, KE MIRICHAW BEFIT. THREE WEEKS. INDAHUNU YEREJIM GIZE ADELEM YEMINAWERAW. SOSIST SAMIT SIQEREW, ADDIS, KADUNA YEMIBAL PARTY FEXIREW, MIRICHA WUSIX GEBU. BE SOSIT SAMINIT WUSIX ASHENEFU. BECAUSE KADUNAN REPRESENT YEMIYADERIGUT YETAWEQU WANA WANA MERIWOCH, YIHEW IGNA YEQOMINIBETIN TAWUQALACHIHU, SILEZIH MIREXUN, SIMACHIN TEQEYIROAL ALUACHEW.

BEQA. SO, BEZA DEREJA NEW MAYET YALEBIN INJI, YALEBELEZAMA, MEAD YEMISERAW ASHAXIRINA MACHIBERIBER, BIZU POWER NEW YEMISEXEW. INA, INANTE YIHIN YEMITAWIQU DEGAFIWOCH, DON'T YAN YAHIL MASEB YELEBACHIHUM. YE KINIJIT SIM KALITEGEGNE, BENE IMINET YAN YAHIL TILIQ INTIN AYDELEM. LE DEMOCRACY MEQOMACHIN, YANIN MESIMERACHININ MEKETELACHIN, LE DEMOCRACY YEQOMUT HAILOCH BAND LAY HONEW INTIN ISIKADEREGU DIRES, ANY DIRIJIT, WILL SUCCEED IN ETHIOPIA NEW YEMILEW.

YE ETHIOPIA HIZB YEMIFELIGEW DEMOCRACIN INJI, YE DIRIJIT SIRA AYIDELEM, GILESEBIM AYDELEM. YEMIYAMINEW. YEMIMERAW, LE DEMOCRACY YEQOME HAIL, LE DEMOCRACY MEQOMUN BETEGIBAR YAREGAGEXE HAIL MENORUN, AND YA HAIL DEGMO ALE, BENE IMINET.

KOROJO: YIHE LE DEMOCRACY YETADEMEW YE HIZB RIEY YIZO YETENESA KINIJIT, INIDE KINIJITINETU YIZO INDIQEXIL LEMADIREG, GENA BIZU TIGIL YALEW YIMESILEGNAL. KEZA ANITSAR, YE HAGER BETUN INDALE TICHE WEDE WUCHI WEDE DIASPORA SIMEXA, DIASPORA, KE LIUKANOCH YE AMERICANA YE AUROPA GUBUGNIT BEHUALA SAYEW; YE AMERICAW LEYITOLET YEWEXA BEMEHONU, GILITS NEBERE. YE AUROPAW GIN ISKAHUN DIRES INDIHU BESHIFINIFIN YEQOYE HAIL NEW. YIHE HAIL, BE ADDIS MELIKU TEXENAKIRO WEDEFIT LEMEQEXEL KALICHALE, INE YIHE HAIL YIHEN YAHIL YEGOLEBETE NEW BIYE ALASIBIM. BE DISAPORA YALEW HAIL INDEHULETEGNA DEREJA NEW YETAYEYALEW ISIKAHUN DIRES. NEGER GIN, AGER BET YALEW HUNETA, AFAGN MELIKU INDEZIHU KEQEXELE, BE WUCH AGER YALEW HAIL BETEDERAJE HUNETA YEMIYADERIGEW MENIQESAQES WESAGNINET ALEW ILALEHU INA, KEZIH ANITSAR MIN TASIBALEH? YALEH GIMIT MINIDINEW.

DR. BERAHNU: INE, WUCHI AGER YALU ETHIOPIYAWUYAN, AGER WUSX SILEMIDEREGEW INQISIQASE, BEXAM KEFITEGNA ASITEWATSIO YINORACHEWAL BIYE NEW YEMASIBEW. BEZIH LAY MINIM XIYAQE YELEGNIM. LIK INIDALIKEW DEGMO, BETELEY, YIH AFENAW BEBEZABET, INA MINIM AGER WUSIX YALEW HUNETA ALANEQANIQ BEMILIBET GIZE, INEGNIH HAILOCH, AHUNIM KALEW YEBELEXE, ASITEWATSIO YINORACHEWAL. MINIM XIYAQE YELEWUM. YIHEN LEMADIREG GIN, GIBACHIN YE DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIAT KEHONE, TESFA ALEGN.

BE WUCH AGER BE KINIJIT SIM YEMIDERAJU SEWOCH, GIBACHEW, MAQOM YEMIFELIGUT SIRIAT DEMOCRACIYAW SIRIAT NEW. THEREFORE, KESIR JEMIRO, BE DEMOCRACIYAWI MENIGED MEDERAJET ALEBACHEW, BILEW YAMINALU BIYE ASIBALEHU. YA ISIKEHONE DIRES, LE DEMOCRACY YEMIDEREGEWUM TIGIL, BE DIRIJITACHEWUM WUSIX MEDEREG KALEBET, MEDEREG ALEBET. KINIJIT WUSANE WESINOAL. KE AHUN BEHUALA MANIGNAWUM YE DIGAF DIRIJIT, YE KINIJIT NEGN BILO YEMINESA YE DIGAF DIRIJIT, BEWUNETEGNA DEMOCRACIYAWI BEHONE MELIK, KESIR JEMIRO TEMERIXO, YEMIQUAQUAM INJI, BESHUMET YEMIQEMEX AYDELEM BILO WESINO, YA MEWAQIR MIN MALET INDEHONE , BEGILITS ASIQEMIXO, BE DELEGATIONU AMAKAYINET, TENEGIROAL LEHULUM. YIHINIE AUROPAM TEDERIGOAL BIYE ASIBALEHU.

NOW, YIHE KEHONE, AUROPA WUSIX YALEW YE KINIJIT YE DIRIJIT HAIL, LIK INDELELAW, YETIM INDALEW, BEZA MELIK TEMERIXO ISIKETEQUAQUAME DIRES, YETEMEREXUTIN SEWOCH, TIKIKILEGNAWUN SEW MEMIREX YEHULACHIHUM HALAFINET NEW, YEZA YE DIRIJIT ABAL NEN YEMITILU SEWOCH HULU ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE ADIRIGACHIHU, IWUNETEGNA YANIN YE DEMOCRACIYAWI MENIFES YEMIYANITSEBARIQEW MANEW BILACHIHU MERIWOCHACHIHUN MEMIREX HALAFINETU YENANTE NEW. GIN ALE IMITILUT SAYIHON, INDELIBACHIN INIHUN YEMITILU KEHONE, YANE METAGEL, LELA MIN ALE BILEH NEW. MENIGEDU IKO AND NEW. SILEZIH LE DEMOCRACY METAGEL, HALAFINET NEW. DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIAT SIREGEX ZIM BILO ALEMAYET, HALAFINET NEW, BAGER WUSIX HONE BE WUCH HAGER. YIHE TAREGALACHIHU BIYE TILIQ TESFA ALEGN, BE HULACHIHUM LAY.

ATSE TEWODROS: ATO HAILU SHAWELINA DR TAYE WELIDE SEMAYAT MINIDINEW YAGENAGNACHEW? KEZIH BEFIT TAYE KINIJIT WUSIX INDALINEBERE HULACHINIM INAWUQALEN. GIN AHUN AND BIRIDILIBS INDILEBSU YADEREGACHEW MINIDINEW BILEH TIGEMITALEH? IBAKIH BEFEXEREH, GILITSILITS ADIRIGEH, YE HODACHININ NIGEREN.

DR. BERHANU: ATO HAILUNINA DR TAYEN MIN AGENAGNACHEW YALEGN, AND TERET ASITAWESEGN. ZINIJERON, MINEW INDEZIH ASIQEYAMI HONISH ALUAT ALU, TESEBISIBEW. INA YESUAM MELIS, MAMAR XELAHU NEW. BAWUQEWUMA, DESITAWUN ALICHILEWUM NEBER, MIN INDAGENAGACHEW. MIN AWUQE (LAUGHS), MIN TIXEYIQEGNALEH? I REALLY DON'T KNOW (LAUGHS). INGIDIH ANDANDOCH INDE,ILUT, YE BERHANUNA YE HAILU TIGIL NEW BE KINIJIT WUSIX YALEW INDEMILUT, ISU KEHONE, BERHANU YIHONALA YAGENAGNACHEW, INE MIN AWUQALEHU? HOW DO PEOPLE MAKE THIS KINDS OF POLITICAL DECISIONS. I DON'T KNOW. IT IS PHASELY BIZZARE NEW. YEMIGEBA AYDELEM. BEZA METEW NEW YEMISHALEW.

MINKIZEM KINIJIT: BE KINIJITU ZURIA, SOSIT ARAT SEW IYETAGELE NEW SIMUN LEMEWUSED. YIHEN HULU YEMIYADERIGEW WOYANE MEHONU YITAWEQAL. GIZE IYEFEJE ADELEM WEY? SIM LEMEQEYER YEMIDEREG KEHONES, BEZA AKABABI MIN IYADEREGACHIHU NEW?

DR. BERHANU: YENE IMINET, LIK XEYAQIW INDALEW, KE AHUN BEHUALA GIZE MESIXET, YIGODAL YEMIL IMINET ALEGN. AND IRIMIJE, TOLO BILO, HAILIN ASEBASIBO, IRIMIJA MEWUSED YASIFELIGAL YEMIL IMINET ALEGN. YIHEN NEGER DRAG MADIREGINA, GIZE INDIWESID MADIREG, WEY SIM BEMEXEBEQ WEY BEMINAMIN, YEBELEXE INIQISIQASEWUN LIGODA YICHILAL INA, AND TEWEYAYITO, TENEGAGIRO, AWUXITO AWURIDO, AND NEGER YAREGUTAL BIYE ASIBALEHU. BEFITSUM DRAG MADIREG YELEBETIM. KINIJIT YEMIBAL SIM LEMEXEBEQ TEBILO, AMETAT BEYE FIRIDI BETU, BEYE MINAMINU INIMELALES MALET, BEWUNET TIGILUN MEGUDAT NEW. BE ETHIOPIA WUSIX YALEW HUNETA, BEXAM BACHIR BACHIR GIZE IYETELEWAWEXE YEMIHED NEW. SILEZA HUNETA, YEMIMEXIN AMERAR MESIXET YASIFELIGAL. INDEZIH ZIM BILO, BE LIMBO METEW XIRU ADELEM.

HARERI: LELAW BE BE EHADEG BEKUL YEMIXALEW FIRACHA, BE ETHIOPIA BIHEROCH YIMIXALEW FIRACHA, BE AKABABI QUANQUA METEDADER BEMILEW MELIKU NEW. YAW IGNAW INAWUQILIHALEN. BE AKABABI QUANQA MENAGER MEBITIHIN, KINIJIT LIWESIDIBIH WEY LIKELEKILIH YIFELIGAL. ALAMAW YA NEW YEMIL ABABAL ALE. SILEZIH BEZIH MELIKU, WEDE FIT ETHIOPIA WUSIX, XEBEQ YALE HIGE MENIGISATAWI LEWUX KEMEXA, KINIJIT BEMIN MELIKU NEW YIHENIN LEWUX YEMIYASATIFEW? AXEQALAY YE ETHIOPIA HIZB TEWEYAYITOBET YEMIMEXA LEWUX NEW, WEYNIS BERASU BEKUL YEMIEXA LEWUX NEW?

DR. BERHANU: KIDIM KETENESAHUBET MESERET TIZ YILIH INDEHONE, YEYANIDANDU GILESEB MEBIT YETEKEBERE NEW. BAHILUM QUANQUAWUM, YEMIKEBERIBET, BE GILESEB DEREJA, INQUAN SEFI GROUP HONO, QUANQUA ALEGN BEZA MENAGER ICHILALEHU, LIJOCHEN BEZA MASITEMAR IFELIGALEHU BILO, XIQIT BUDIN INQUAN BEHON, YE GILESEBIN MEBIT YAKEBERE HAIL, YAKEBERE HIGE MENIGIST LIKELEKILEW AYICHILIM. BIFELIG INQUAN LIKELEKILEW AYICHILIM. YETIGNAW YIBEJEGNAL, YETIGNAW YIXEQIMEGNAL BILO MEWESEN YALEBET, GILE SEBU NEW.

YE LIJOCHIN TIMIHIRIT BEMIMELEKET, BEMIN BIMARU NEW YEMIXEQEMUT BILO MEWESEN YALEBET AND BETESEB NEW. BEBETESEBU AKABABI YALE COMMUNITY NEW TESEBISIBO YEMIYAREGEW. THEREFORE, BE MINIM AYINET YE QUANQUA XIYAQE, KINIJIT YEMIKELAKEL WEYIM YEMIGOSHIM AQUAM YELEWUM. BECAUSE IMINETU, YEGILESEBOCHIN MEBIT SIYAKEBIR, INEZIH NEGEROCH BEMULU INIDALU . KEZA WUCHI, SEWU YEMAYAWUQEW AND YE KINIJIT AQUAM ALE. EHADEGIM MAWURAT YEMAYIFELIGEW.

ADDISU PROGRAMACHI LAY, INFACT YEWEDEFIT PROGRAMACHININ SINAWEXA YEWESENINEW. YIHEWUM, KINIJIT NEW LEMEJEMERIA GIZE, HIBRE BIHERAWI YEHONE DIRIJIT HONO, BE ETHIOPIA WUSIX YE ECONOMY YE AQIM MEXEN YEMIKELEKILEW NEGER KALE, ISUN MASITEKAKEL KALIHONE BEQER, BE IMINET DEREJA,OROMIGNA HULETEGNA BIHERAWI QUANQUA INDIHON INIFELIGALEN YEMIL AQUAM YEWESEDEW. BE AGERITU LALU QUANQUAWOCH RESPECT, KIBIR SILALEW NEW KINIJIT YIHEN YALEW. BAGER WUSIX LALU BIHER BIHERESEBOCH KIBIR SILALEW NEW YIHENIN YALEW. YEKILIL QUANQUA YIHUN OROMIGNA ADELEM YEMILACHIHU. IGNA INDE HULETEGNA BIHERAWI QUANQUA MEHONU YIXEQIMAL. IN FACT, ZEGOCHACHIN BETECHALE MEXEN, INEZIHN HULET QUANQUAWOCH IYETEMARU, IYAWEQU MADEGACHEW HULU YIXEQIMAL, YEBELEXE YASITEBABIRENAL, YAXABIQENAL, AND YADERIGENAL. SILEZIH XIRU NEW BILO YIHE AQUAM YALEW KINIJIT NEW.

YIHENIN DIRIJIT INDEGENA WEXITEH QUANQUA ARAKISEHAL BILO EHADEG YEMIYADERIGEWUN KENTU, CHEKAGNINA AGER AXIFI YEHONE PROPAGANDA, JORO MESIXET NEW YEMIHONEW. EHADEG YICHI AGER INDITIKEFAFEL, IRIS BERISACHIN BINIBALA, FITSUM DESITA YEMISEXEW HAIL AYDELEM. KEZA ARIQEN, KEZA ALIFEN MASEB ALEBIN. YE TIGRAY LIJOCH YIHENIN YEMIYAWIQUM YIMESILEGNAL. BESIMACHEW, INESUN BEMASIFERARAT, BIHER BIHERE SEBIN BEMASIFERARAT, MEXUBIH, LIBELUH NEW, IRASIHI XEBIQ IYALU, BETELEY KE MIRICHA 97 BEHUALA, IGNA SINITASER JEMIRO, SIYADERIGU YENEBEREWUN, KENTU INA REALLY BEXAM ASAFARI YE EHADEG SIRA, MINIM AYINET JORO MESIXET YELEBINIM. STRONGLY MEQAWEM ALEBIN, MAWUGEZ ALEBIN. LELELOCH BIHERESEB GUADEGNOCHACHIN ZEMEDOCHACHIN MENIGER ALEBIN. BECAUSE, KINIJIT, KINIJIT BICHAWUN ADELEM, YE ETHIOPIAN YE DEMOCRACIYAWI INQISIQASEWOCH HULU AQIFO YEMIHED HAIL NEW MEHON YALEBET.

KINIJIT ZELALEM: ANTE ECONOMIST INDEMEHONIHMEXEN, ZARE YE ETHIOPIA MENIGIST, EHADEG, YE ETHIOPIA ECONOMY BE 10% ADIGOAL, LELAM LELAM NEGER DERISOAL. CHIGIR YELEBINIM. YIHE HIZB YE ECONOMY STRESS YELEBETIM IYETEBALE. ESPECIALLY, MIRICHAW KETEDEREGE BEHUALA, HIZIBU KINIJITIN MULU LEMULU KEMEREXE BEHUALA, TILIQ FINANACIAL CRISIS DERISOAL, BE BIZU HIZB LAY. BEDEWELIN QUXIR TILIQ CHIGIR INDALE NEW YEMINISEMAW. INDET NEW IMITAYEW ANTE? BE EWUNET 10% ADIGOAL YEMIBALEW NEGER TIKIKIL NEW?

DR. BERHANU: BACHIRU LEMEMELES, INDIH AYINET NEGER, BETELEY STATISTIKAWI XINAT ADIRIGO, ZIRZIR SIRA SERITO LEMAWUXAT, REALLY BIZU GIZENA BIZU XINIQAQENM YEMIXEYIQ NEW. AND NEGER LINEGIRIH YEMICHILEW, YE MEAKELAWI STATISTICS BALESILIXAN YEMIYAWEXACHEW AHAZOCH, BEXAM KEFITEGNA TEAMAGNINET YALACHEW ADELUM, BETELEYAYU MIKINIYAT. GIMASHOCHU BETEKNIKAWI MIKINIYAT, GIMASHOCHUM ON PURPOSE BEMIDEREG MANIPULATION MIKINIYAT, KEZA BETECHEMARI DEGMO, INE ALEM BANKIM, INE IMFM BIHONU YEMIWESIDUACHEW AHAZOCH, YIHE BEMENIGIST YEMIWEXAW AHAZ LAY TINISH ADJUSTMENT ADIRGEW NEW INJI, YERASACHEW LIYU YEHONE AHAZ YELACHEWUM. YIHENIN NEGER ADRESS LEMADREG, IN THE PAST, BIZU BIZU MUKERA ADIRIGENAL. GIN AND NEGER LILIH YEMICHILEW, YANIN DATA KEMEXEQEM WUCHI, LELA AMARACH, LELA YETELEYE YIH AHAZ YEMIGEGNIBET AMARACH YELEM.

YIHEN KALIKU BEHUALA, YEMIBALEW AHAZ KILKIL NEW WEY? QUCH BILO, YETIGNAW ECONOMIC SECTOR YIHEN YAHIL ADIGO NEW YIHENIN AHAZ YAMEXAW?. SILEZIH BEZIRZIR LINEGIRIH ALICHILIM. AND NEGER LINEGIRIH YEMICHILEW, YE ETHIOPIA HIZB INDEZIH TEMECHITOT, DELITOT, IYENORE KEHONE, BERASU BEMENIGIST AHAZIM TENESITEN, BE ETHIOPIA TARIK LEMEJEMERIA GIZE, DOUBLE DIGIT INFLATION, KE 23% BELAY, MENIGIST INQUAN ACCEPT KADEREGEW BELAY, SIMEXA INDEZIH TAYITO AYITAWEQIM UNDER NORMAL ECONOMIC SITUATIONS. ECONOMIW SERIOUS YEHONE STRAIN WUSIX YALE MEHONU MINIM XIYAQE YELEWUM. YIHE DEGMO, BETELEY DEHAWUN, FIXED INCOME YALEWUN BEXAM BEXAM IYEGODAW INDEHONE MINIM XIRIXARE YELEWUM. GIN LE EHADEG YEMILEW, AY TADIA INDEZIH ECONOMIWUN IYASADEGIH KEHONE, HIZIBU BEZIH MIKINIYAT IYETEDESETE KEHONE, SILEZIH YIWEDEWAL MALET NEW, SILEZIH IRASIHIN LEMIRICHA, YALEMINIM MACHIBERIBER LEMIN LEMIRICHA ATAQERIBIM. LEMIN TACHIBEREBIRALEH? LEMIN YEDURIYE SIRA TISERALEH? BILO MEXEYEQ NEW.

BE PALTALK SILEMISADEBU SEWOCH.

DR BERHANU: SIMA, INDIH AYINET SEWOCH IKO WEXITEW SISADEBU, KEMANIN BELAY YEMISEDIBUT IRASACHEWUN NEW. DINQURINACHEWUN, BILIGINACHEWUN NEW INJI IYASAYUT YALUT IKO, LEMIN YAN YAHIL TICHENEQIBACHEWALEH? YOU KNOW, IMINET IMA BINORACHEW, AMELEKAKETIMA BINORACHEW, IDIAMA BINORACHEW, IDIACHEWUN YIZEW, IMINETACHEWUN YIZEW, INDZAMA AYICHILUM. FERIWOCH NACHEW, SENEFOCH NACHEW, BEDENIB MASEB AYICHILUM, BALEGEWOCH NACHEW, BEZIH MELIK YEMIQENACHEW SIDIB NEW. INEZIHIN TITEN NEW, INESUN ALIFEN NEW DEMOCRACYN YEMINIGENEBAW INA, IZA LAY CONCENTRATE INADIRIG. LELAWUN TEWEW.

INIKOPA: IMINAKAHIDEW SELAMAWI TIGIL NEW. YE KINIJIT ANDU MERIHO, YE SEBIAWI MEBITIN BE ETHIOPIA WUSIX LEMAREGAGEX YEMIDEREG TIGIL NEWUNA, YE SEBIAWI MEBITIN TIGIL DEGIMO YE HAIMANOT DIRIJITOCH, BIZU MANPOWER YALACHAWUN YEMIYAKATITIBETIN MENIGED KINIJIT INDET YAYEWAL?

DR. BERHANU: ANDANIDE GIZE, KETARIK HIDETOCH, HULUM AGER YERASU UNIQU YEHONE YE TARIK INTIN SILALEW, HULEM QELAL AYIDELEM WEDE LELAW GA LEMEWUSED, GIN BIZU YEMINIMAREW NEGEROCH ALU. YE SEBIAWI MEBIT CHIQONAN BEMEQAWEM, KEMANIM BELAY, KEFITEGNA YEMORAL HALAFINET ALEBACHEW BIYE AMINALEHU, YE HAIMANOT DIRIJITOCH. MIKINIYATUM YE HAIMANOT DIRIJITOCH YE MORAL TIMIHIRIT YEMISEXU NACHEW. SIGEDIL ATIGIDELU; SIBEDEL SICHEQON ATIBEDILU ATICHEQUNU BILO NEW TIMIHIRITU YETEYAZEW. HAIMANOTOCH INDIH AYINET TIGIL WUSIX, KEFIT QEDIMEW MEGEGNETACHEW TEGEBI NEW INJI. LELA MIN LIHON YICHILAL. BEXAM TEGEBI NEW. MADIREGIM ALEBACHEW.

YEMIYASAZINEW YE AGERACHINI NEGER, INIDENIZH YALU YE HAIMANOT DIRIJITOCH, YIHENIN HAIMANOTACHEW YEMIGEFACHEWUN YE MORAL YEBELAYINET YIZEW, INEZIHIN XIYAQEWOCH LE ZEGOCHACHEW, LE MIEMENATACHEW MEKEBER ALEMEQOMACHEW NEW. INE KEZIH BEFIT HULET SOSIT GIZE TENAGIREWALEH. ANDU BEXAM, YE ETHIOPIAN HAIMANOTOCH, BETEWESENE DEREJA KIBIRACHEWUN YEQENESE NEGER BINOR, BE QEY SHIBIR GIZE TIZ YILACHIHU INDEHONE, ANDACHEWUM WEXITEW, ANDACHEW WEXITEW, YIHE HULU WEXAT SIYALIQ, YIHE HULU YEZEGOCH DEM MEFISES TIKIKIL AYIDELEM BILEW ALITENAGERUM.

INE YIHENIN QEXITA, YE HAIMANOT MERIWOCH BALUBET, YE GINIBOTU GIDIYA LIJEMER AND ASRA AMIST QEN SIQEREW, INENA ATO MERARA HEDEN, YE PROTESTANTINA YE CHATOLIC MERIWOCH BALUBET NEW YIHEN YENEGERIKUACHEW. INA KEZA YETARIK XEBASA WIXU AHUN. KEFITEGNA BEDEL LIDERIS NEW. SEW LIGEDEL NEW. SEW LITASER NEW. YIHE NEGER INDAYIHON, IBAKACHIHU YIHEN MENIGIST ADEB INDIGEZA TINISH GEBITACHIHU TEYIQU. YE MAHIBERESEBACHININ YE MORAL MESERET ASIXEBIQULIN, BIYE LEMIGNALEHU. AHUNIM, YIHEN MADIREG YALEBACHEW YIMESILEGNAL, AND YIHENIN LEMADIREG ZIGIJU ISIKEHONU DIRES, AYIDELEM KE HAIMANOT DIRIJITOCH, KEMANIM GAR NEW; YE DEMOCRACY TIGIL HODE SEFI NEW. YE DEMOCRACY TIGIL HULUNIM AQIFO YEMIHED NEW. BEZIH IGNA, MESERETAWI IMINETOCH LAY ISIKETEMESERETE DIRES, HULUNIM AQIFO, BEMECHERESHA YE HIZIBUN MIRICHA MESERET ADIRIGO YEMINEQANEQ SILEHONE, KE HAIMANOT DIRIJITOCH AYIDELEM, MEBIT YIKEBER YEMIL, DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIAT YIKEBER KEMIL KE MANIGNAWUM HAIL GAR NEW ABIREN MESIRAT YALEBIN.

INE IMAWUQEW KINIJIT YIHENIN YAMINAL. DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIAT LEMEKETEL QORIXO YETENESA NEW. BE KINIJIT WUSIX YALEN HAILOCH YIHENIN INIGEFALEN. ABIREWUN INDISERU IYEXEYEQIN INIHEDALEN.

AND LENATU: YE KINIJIT MERIHOWOCH YEHONUT, GILITSINET, TEXEYAQINETINA, DEMOCRACY, BAHUNU WEQIT, WEDE EHAPAM BEMENIFES, BE AHUNU SEAT DEMOCRACIYAWI EPRP YEMIL NEGER INAYALEN. GASHA LE ETHIOPIA ALE. HAIRINET LE TIGRAY, YEMILIM ADDIS BENE GEBIRU ASRAT YETEQUAQUAME PARTY ALE. BEZIH LAY MIN AYINET ASITEYAYET ALEH?

GREEN-YELLOW-RED: KINIJIT YETEQUAQUAMEW KE ARAT DIRIJITOCH BIHONIM, ARATU TEWAHIDEW KINIJITIN MEFIXERACHEW ADELEM YE ETHIOPIYAN HIZIB ATIKUROT YESABEW. INDENANITE AYINET YE ETHIOPIA MIHUROCH IZA WUSX BEMEHONACHIHU SILEHONE, AHUNIM LELA, TOLO BILACHIHU ACTION MEWUSED INDALEBACHIHU INTIN LEMALET NEW.

DR BERHANU: YIHE YEMECHERESHAW NEW AYDEL? BESIMEAB, TEGELAGELIKUGN. MEKERA IKO NEW IBAKIH. IZIH INANTE PALTALK ROOM INDEMIWERAW NEW MALET NEW (LAUGHS).

YIHE YETEFEXERU, YETELEYAYU DIRIJITOCHIN BEMIMELEKET; INE GIN EWUNET NEW YEMILACHIHU, KE AHUN BEHUALA WEQITU IMIXEYIQEW TIGIL, BENE IMINET, BE DEMOCRACIYAWI SIRIAT MEMESIRET, BE ZEGOCH BE HIG FIT IKULINET, BE ZEGOCH BE POLETIKA FIT IKULINET YEMIYAMIN, MANIGNAWUM DIRIJIT, BENEGNIH IMINETOCH LAY TEMESIRITO, KEZA WUCHI YALUTIN HASSABOCHUN DEGIMO LE HIZB AQIRIBO, HIZB BEMEREXEW LEMETEDADER YEMIFELIG, MANIGNAWUM DIRIJIT, BE MULU TESEBISIBO, BE GARA YEMITEDADERIBET DEMOCRACIYAWI, HABITAMI BIHON, DEHAM BIHON, YIHENIN ISIKETEQEBELU DIRES INA, MESERETAWI YEHONU YEDEMOCRACY ISETOCH BE AGERACHIN LEMAMIXAT NEW IMINIFELIGEW ISIKALU DIRES, WHATEVER KEZA BEHUALA INEGNA LIYUNETOCH, BENEGNA LIYUNETOCH LAY MESIMAMAT YALIBEN AND NEGER LAY BICHA NEW. YIHEWUM, LIYUNETACHININ HIZB FIT AQIRIBEN, BE MIRICHA INIWEDADERINA, HIZIB YEMEREXEWUN INIQEBELALEN.

YIHEN ISIKETEQEBELU DIRES, HULUM GA ABIRO MESIRAT, EHADEG BEYEGIZEW YEMIFETSIMEWUN, IRIS BERIS YEMEKEFAFEL WEXIMED ALIFEN HEDEN, YETEBABERE SEFI HIZIBAWI INIQISIQASE, LE DEMOCRACY, MEFIXERINA, LEZA BEMINAREGEW, YIHENIN MENIGIST MANIBERIKEKINA WEDE DIRIDIR INDIMEXA MADIREG, MINIM AMARACH YELELEW BICHEGNA MEFITIHE NEW BIYE NEW YEMAMINEW. SILEZIH, AYIDELEM ABIRO MESIRAT, MIN YIMESILIHAL ABIRO MESIRAT ADELEM MEBAL YALEBET, LELA MIRICHA YELENIM NEW YEMILACHIHU.

YIHENIN NEW ABIREN MESIRAT YALEBIN. INDEW KE AHUNU JEMIREN, BEYEBOTAW YEMIDEREGU SEBIAWI MEBIT GEFEFAWOCHIN ABIREN MEQAWEM, ABIREN SELIF MEWUXAT, LE OGADEN HIZB IMINIQORIQOR MEHONACHININ MASAYET, LE OROMO HIZB MEQORIQORACHININ MASAYET, LE TIGRAY HIZB YEMINIQOREQOR MEHONACHININ MASAYET, MANIM LETEBEDELE DEMOCRACY LETEXEMA HIZB YEMINIQOREQOR MEHONACHININ MASAYET;YIHENIN DEGIMO BE WERE BICHA SAYIHON BETEGIBAR MASAYET; YIHEN IYADEREGIN, BEZIH TIGIL WEQIT YEMIFEXER YEMETEBABER SIMET, BEZIH TIGIL WEQIT YEMIFEXER SOLIDARITY NEW, YACHIN AGER AND ARIGO YEMIYAQOYAT. LEZA NEW MEHED YALEBIN. LEZA NEW METAGEL YALEBIN. YIHE MINIM XIYAQE YELELEW NEGER NEW.

YIHE, TEFALAMIWOCHIN BEMIMELEKET QIDIM SIMELIS, YALIKUT NEGER NEBERE. YIHEWUM, INEGNIH WERENA ASHIMUR YEMIMESILACHEW, POLETIKA TENIKOL YEMIMESILACHEW, KEZA WUCHI MINIM BE CHINIQILATACHEW ASIBEW, ASELASILEW, ANDIN HASAB GEFITEW SEW MASAMEN YEMAYICHILU, FIT LEFIT WEXITEW KE SEW GAR MENEGAGER INA YETELEYE HASAB SISEMU, KERASACHEW CHINIQILAT GAR AWAHIDEW, YIHE YETELEYE HASAB IWUNETIM IMIYASIKED NEW, IMIYASIKED ADELEM, BILEW MASELASEL YEMAYICHILU SEWOCH, BIDIG BILEW POLETIKAWUN BE SIDIB, BASHIMUR LIGEFUBET BIMOKIRU, MINIM LIGERIMEN AYIGEBAM. LELA IMIYAWIQUT NEGER YELEM. INA BEXAM ADIRIGE IMIMATSENEW, IMILEMINACHIHU INANITEN, INANET LE DEMOCRACY QOMENAL YEMITILU, INANTE LE EWUNETEGNA DEMOCRACIYAWI INIQISIQASE QOMENAL YEMITILU, ABIRACHIHU ATIZIQEXU. WIXU KEZA AYINET YE BILIGINA POLETIKA.

MANIM SEW HASAB KALEW HASABUN YIZO YIWEYAY. SIMUT. SEMITACHIHU LIYUNET KALACHIHU BE IDEAW LAY TEKERAKERUT. XIYAQE KALACHIHU XEYIQUT. TIKIKIL ADELEM YEMITILUT NEGER KALE, KELIKILUT. YIHE TIKIKIL ADLEM BILACHIHU TEQAWEMUT. KEZA WEXITACHIHU GIN, BILIGINAN BE BILIGINA, SILESEDEBUN INISIDEBACHEW, YEMIL AYINET POLETIKA, IRASACHIHUN BENESU DEREJA ZIQ MADIREG NEW. IZA WUSIX ATIGIBU. INESU, IDIH AYNET BEHAVIOR YALACHEW SEWOCH YEMISIMAMACHEW KE EHADEG GAR NEW. INESU YIQEXILU. NEGERESEBACHEWUM AND IKO NEW. YEMALIWEDEWUN SEW LAXIFA NEW AYIDELEM INDE, IMANIWEDEWUN AMELEKAKET INICHERISEW NEW. INAWARIDEW, INISIDEBEW, INIWASH, INIQIXEF NEW YEMILUT. EHADEG YEMIYADERIGEW ISUNU NEW. IMIQAWEMUTIN MEGIDEL, MASER, MEDEBIDEB. YIHEN NEW YEMIYADERIGUT, ADLEME INDE? SO LENESU MELIS ATISIXU IBAKACHIHU WENIDIMOCHE, IZA WUSIX ATIGIBU. KEZA KEF BELU. SEWOCHIN BE HASABACHEW MOGITUACHEW. INJI INDEZA AYINET BILIGINA WUSIXT ATIGIBU LEMALET NEW.

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